Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Bill Dodd, Mar 23, 2007.
look at how this fish has no spots below the lateral line / red
all the other bows have spots everywhere, that was one that stood out
plus it's shape reminds me alot of zen's female columbia nate fish pics
How did this thread turn into "Name This Fish"? Is it really important which is which? I personally don't give two shits if they were rainbows or if they were steelies, but it seems to be a huge point of contention for everyone else:beathead: so I'll just wander on to other, less nitpicky, more entertaining posts (for some reason Mingo's update post comes to mind)
Some people like to be educated on what they are catching i guess.
Jim G's fish is one of the largest yakima trout i have ever seen. Probably the same length as the above steelhead and clearly a resident fish.
The pictures of all these beautiful fish make a guy proud to be a fisherman.
Thanks for sharing all the great pics.
WTF Man? We aren't flaming each other or talking shizz to each other. I find this discussion VERY interesting.
BTW, you are the one being "nitpicky" all the posts on this thread seem pretty civilized and relevant to me........:beathead: :beathead: :beathead: :beathead:
Never said that there was any flaming going on.....I was just stating an opinion, just like everyone else is allowed to do. Relax
Ummm, I am sorry but is that a big rainbow?
1) it looks like it is about 20 inches. Heck he can hold it in one hand!!!
2) He does the top secret guide trick of extending his arm as far as he can to make the fish look better. Look closely, the fish is smaller than 3 of his hands. I am not even sure if it is 20 inches, more like 16 to 20. How many of you have caught huge trout and been able to hold it in one hand, with your one hand practically engulffing the width of the fish?
Whatever man.. post something positive..:beathead:
Why don't you post a pic of the big ass fish you catch?
No secret trick it might be a secret to a kid.
Go F**k yourself kid.
Hmmm, do we have a schill for Mr Joyce? Mr Joyce should be so proud of pictures of 16 inch fish being posted here. <extreme sarcasm, I am sure he has caught fish as big as 30 inches on the yak> You want a pic of a bigger fish? Look in this thread, there are pictures of fish in the mid 20's to 30 inch range.
Believe me the guide can do a lot better than pictures of half pounders. I have no doubt that if we wanted to see BIG TROUT FROM THE YAK, Mr joyce could show us rainbows in the 8 -16 pound range, not 1 salt fish. To be clear, you do Mr Joyce no good schilling for him showing minnows when he probably catches monsters.
Calfly - with all due respect to Mr. Joyce, he did not take the photo nor did he post it on this site. no need to diss a guide like that, especially a good one, who earns a hard living doing a hard days work. he does a lot for our yakima river fishing community. it's easy for you to take pot shots when you hide behind your anonymous id and the fact you live in Norcal..... mr joyce could care less what is posted on here, but if you have a problem with him, then be a man and talk to him directly about it.
Bill - thanks for sharing the pic, it got me out on the water the other day
Many of you have made some good points about the pictures... sure all of them are nice fish for the yakima river.... One of them definitely looks more like a steelhead than a rainbow..but here is another thing to think about, just like bull trout in the skagit... these fish have different life histories... sure there are the "resident" fish which basically stay in the same stem of the river their entire life... then there are the "anadromous" fish which venture out to the salt water to find food for different lengths of time... and then there are the fish which venture downstream to larger parts of the river or other branches of the river to find food... or in the case of the columbia...a dammed up river which forms a lake... these life histories may be what causes the fish to resemble very small steelhead versus resident fish.... these life histories "fluvial" and "adfluvial" are common in almost all large river systems in our region.... and trout spending time in lakes do tend to have a more silvery color to them... than do the fish that live only in rivers... my opinion although a complete guess, is that many smaller "steelhead" caught out of columbia tributaries never made it down to the saltwater at all.... if you consider how far they had to swim and how many rich food sources they pass... a fish that leaves the homeriver as a smolt (10-13 inches) and returns a year later and is only (18-25inches) inches probably could have eaten pretty well off down migrating salmon and other food forms in a reservoir... or even in the main stream of the columbia.
To me this seems like a viable alternative to the black and white argument of Resident or steelhead...
again..not saying its not a steelhead..because it does look like one... but just presenting more alternatives to the argument
To clear things up for you: The yakima does not have a significant steelhead run (approx. 100-300 strays/year) , so this fish is not a "half pounder" it is a resident rainbow. A rainbow in the 8-16lbs range does not exist in this river.
How do you know this? Not questioning so much as curious.
I have personally seen/caught very large rainbows and observed steelhead in the upper yak. I am guessing steelhead are rare but why is this since similar rivers have large runs (methow, wentachee, etc)? The dams? Less need for fish to be anadromous like the in case of the Cedar?
Joe knows this because there is a fish ladder on Roza dam that can accurately count the number of returning adult steelhead to the upper Yakima. The other rivers you mention have hundreds of thousands of hatchery smolts released into their respective waters by which a certain percent return as adults. The Yakima has very little if any additional hatchery smolts released into the river. Historically, I believe the Wenatchee and Methow rivers naturally had more steelhead than the Yakima. Dams? Wenatchee and Methow river steelhead have 3 and 5 more mainstem Columbia dams to cross than Yakima steelhead.