looking for information and preference on which is the if you will "better" for the application of using this with tips for steelhead and salmon i have some new tips to use but not shure if i will use loops or nail knot to conect leader to tips thank you for any information.
Double the tip over about an inch and tie the nailknot around that and trim off the doubled over tag. It gives a better bite on the thinner sinktip material.
I nailnot a piece of stiff mono (20+ lb) on the end of my fly line then tie an albright loop on the end, close to the end of the fly line. I put the loops through that. I've had the slip-on knots pull off.
For all our customers, we tie two and sometimes three nailknots with 18.5 lb. leader over a doubled flyline and coat it with pliobond to smooth it out. Nailknots derive their strength from biting into the plastic coating of the flyline. I'd rather put my trust (and our customers) in a good ol' loop to loop connection.
Braided mono loops, when tied and attached correctly, are capable of handling anything landable by fly rod in fresh or salt water. In my steelhead systems I use braided mono loops and Albright knots with confidence. Tied properly both will perform.
Braided loops suck in my opinion... they slip and I've had the loop un-ravel a couple of times. I always nail knot with a perfection loop to my leader and or sink tips. If you do choose to use the commercial braided loops I would recommend that you add two or three nail knots spaced equally on the length of the braid, and then use a longer piece of heat shrink tubing being ultra careful not to damage the nylon. You can also use Zap a Gap to smooth it out. I think its just too much hassle and better off using a stiff piece of 30# Brown Maxima.
Braided loops suck in my opinion... they slip and I've had the loop un-ravel a couple of times.
Clearly you did not know how to set them up, and adjust the stiffens of the loop. I had never had problems with loops so do many other anglers who use them properly.
Clearly, your post is incomplete....and very well could be interpreted as chippy....why not tell the "great unwashed" how TO use them properly.....for myself, I install the braided loop, one nail knot at the end to keep from unfraying, and some superglue over the length of the braid, all the while hanging the loop with a small weight to keep straight till the glue dries.
I always strip the last few inches of the fly line down to the core and make a surgeons loop for attaching my leader... anyone else do this? never had one fail and they're a whole heck of a lot smaller that way.
Been using the braided loops for about five years now but only for my spey sink tip fishing. All floating line situations is a nail knot to the leader.
Tied/attached one way or the other, don't remember loosing a tip, etc. Until ......YESTERDAY.. AFTER READING this thread .......I lost a brand new Skagit head/tip and then a extra fast sinking poly leader.:beathead:
SHUT UP YOU GUYS; you're costing me BIG BUCKS!:rofl:
Those who know you a long time, no that you have probably 4 sets of unused tips/lines lying dormant in your vest for years, as backups, like I. Never ever be on the river when a line or reel without a backup in case you are on a hot run of chromers, etc.. A backup rod requires a hike to the car most times if its safe to leave one in it where your fishing, out here its safe most of the time I have found, never had my car broken into while fishing to date.
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