building a rod


The dumb kid
the questions about seconds at gregs is like a joke, he has more there than i care to admit. it takes some rooting to find a really good one but they are around. my last build was a 130$ rainshadow that i found in the seconds pile. only thing wrong was a cosmetic flaw unter what is now my reel seat. got the black for 20 bucks, entire rod was less than 50 for a nice rod that I personally like the feel of. id run in to see what he has there in seconds tomorrow, but he is closed on sunday. ill have to get back to you. RF eh? never fished it.. might have to take you up on that offer!


Rob Blomquist

Formerly Tight Loops
I just saw Greg at the Monroe show, and bought a 5 wt 3 piece XCEL blank from him that is a Rainshadow Second. I asked him about it and this year they are "action" seconds. That just means that the detailed specs of the rod do not match the performance standard in a quick check. Greg told me that they tended to be both sides of the right action, either faster or slower. The one I brought back seemed just fine to me, not much faster or slower.

I bought one, and am likely to buy more of the 5 wts to sell as stillwater rods. XCEL rods, are rocket launchers, and good rods for managing the bigger fish.
I would also highly reccomend Greg's. I have built 2 rods at his shop using seconds and I love them both. This is a great option if you are building your first rod. PLUS, I firmly believe in supporting the local independent shops when possible.

Also, does anyone know of a shop selling rod building equipment in the Bellevue/Issaquah area. I need some thread and glue and cant justify the extra trip up north.


Oncorhynchus clarki clarki
Creekside carries some thread, not much selection, but some. I don't know what kind of epoxy you are looking for but they also have 5 min epoxy (I don't really like this stuff, I prefer the 30). Well, I hope this helps.

Thanks for the info. You are right about the limited selection at Creekside (about a 1/2 dozen threads). I think it's unfortunate about Shoff's being only online. You lose that personal touch and loyalty of your customer base.


Oncorhynchus clarki clarki
If you don't mind the wait they would probably order you some, they are really good with things like that. Or you could just do some shopping on the old computer.



resident lurker
I was going to post a new thread, but this one seems to be answering most of my questions.
I've never built a rod, and just got interested in the idea of doing it. I want to build a 4pc 5wt for backpacking around with, and later a 3wt rod.

I'd planned to browse the online rod building shops and educate myself real quick and get something in my price range (low). I started looking at the blanks that Cabela's has, but I think I can find better blanks for a lower price.

Do I really need to get the motorized drying racks and stuff like that or can I get away with just the hardware, glue, varnish and such?
I'm thinking I should also get either a book or an instruction video as well, since I've never even seen it done.

Just wanted to see if I'm on the right track so far...

Rob Blomquist

Formerly Tight Loops
Go on up to Gregs, and he has a list of Rainshadow Factory Seconds that are very nicely priced.

As to epoxy and the drying motor, you don't need a motor for drying if you turn the blank 1/4 turn every 15 minutes for the first 2 or 3 hours.

Don't use varnish, while it is easier, it needs to be redone every year or so to stay in top shape. Epoxy never needs to be redone.