Pattern California Neil

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  1. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    Since we will be encountering more staging coho, I thought others might want to tie up a few of these.
    I always finding it interesting how a pattern acquired it's name.
    Here the story of the California Neil and a step by step for tying it.
    I'll be putting some of these to use this weekend.
    SF

    http://ospreyflyfishers.com/Patterns/California Neil.pdf
     
  2. SaltyCutt

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    Thanks SF, I have always liked tying that pattern, but have never caught a fish on one!

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    You giving up on the salt Brian?
     
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    I just got back from two weeks on Vancouver Island fishing the mid-island beaches and rivers. The Neil was the go to fly in the salt, just as it always has been. However, this year, the smaller sizes (6 & 8) worked better than the larger flies. Clouser's in the smaller sizes also worked well.
     
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  5. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    Matt,
    Not done yet. I'll be hitting the salt this weekend.
    I'm going to change a few things fly wise as things change the further we get into October.
    The California Neil and Croft's Spider will be part of the game plan.
    SF
     
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    I was wondering. So do the later fish tend to stop actively feeding even in the usual saltwater travelling areas? I figured I was done after last weekend but after a dry week I'm thinking I'll probably hit it again.
     
  7. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    Matt,
    I think some of the fish are still feeding. I caught a fish last weekend with loose scales and multiple herring in it.
    Another fish had set scale. a bit of color and a shrunken stomach. You know where I caught the fish so both are present in the same area.
    I just want to be have flies ready should I encounter both feeding and staging fish.

    Based on reports I read, there were a good number of 6-9 lb silvers caught last weekend during the Sekiu derby. The winning coho was over 13 lbs.
    Sounds like there still more coming our way. This weather should keep them in the sound. You've got to love October salt coho!
    SF
     
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    I think it could still be worth it. The fish I cleaned on Monday had a stuffed stomach, including this really long baitfish looking thing that was a good six inches long.

    Tying and fishing some of these smaller, more traditional patterns is something I really need to add to my game
     
  9. Matthew Gulbranson

    Matthew Gulbranson Resident Swinger

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    Seriously? I might need to hit the beach another time or two...
     
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    For the body material I will often sub Lazer Wrap which is also called Edgebrite and instead of overlaying with mylar I will underlay with the mylar or tinsel to enhance the effect.
     
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    Thanks SF. I'm going to give this pattern a shot to see if it works on migrating fish on a SWW river this week. Been seeing some coho move through some pocket water but so far I've only connected with a few chinook. Kinda odd since the coho are usually more aggressive in this kind of water.
     
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    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide.

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    Glad you swung this back to the surface, SilverFly. I'd heard about the California Neil from another fly angler while fishing the Kalama about 10 years ago. Yes, thanks for the link, Stonefish.
    Coincidientally, I have had good luck using streamers and wooly buggers with green floss or olive chennile bodies, palmered with grizzly hackle. Chums and trout, mainly. Never tied any with epoxy coating with a hackle wound on while the epoxy is wet, though. That recipe is money!
     
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    Glad to help :) . This pattern just looks fishy. I tied a couple last week, but being out of epoxy I deviated from the recipe by over-wrapping the floss with clear vinyl. Actually looks pretty close to the original. I modified another by wrapping the floss with a strand of wide Lateral Scale for some flash before wrapping in clear vinyl. The vinyl I used is really wide stuff, at least 3mm so it has an almost magnifying effect with the underlying flash material. I'd love to test them out but the river needs to drop down to a fishable level again before the coho run is over!
     
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    An interesting variant of the California Neil, and quite popular in BC, is the painted head version at the top. I tie it in the original style: a silver tinsel underbody and a narrow strip of Edgebrite wrapped over the top. When tying, the palmered hackle can be felt to snap down between the individual wraps of Edgebrite, protecting the delicate hackle stem from sharp teeth.

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