Callibaetis yet ?

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  1. Drifter

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    Fishing crane prairie res. for 8 days last week I finally saw a cali hatch come off the last couple days. although not very a strong hatch we were able to catch a couple adults and saw that in that region the hatch was more of a light grey? Now in the start of June I will be going back to do a combo trip to East lake and crane, east lake being known for it's great cali hatch I had to make some patterns to match the regions hatch. In the new addition of flyfishing and tying journal mag Skip Morris does a write-up of the best lake mayfly hatch - THE CALLIBEATIS - good article and flies tied for each stage. but I actually like Preston's patterns better, thank you Preston for sharing!

    Here is what I came up with for central Oregon lakes. I haven't come up with a dry pattern yet but will probably be an up-wing of partridge soft hackle for wings in A parachute style. most of these patterns are with partridge soft hackle. just thought I'd share!

    I am confused about the colors used from different patterns? Skips patterns are both light grey and light tan? the adult I caught and viewed was light grey so my flies are all in light grey for the region. Is there something I'm missing Preston, thanks for any feed back from the masses!!!
     
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  2. Drifter

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    Preston, love how you used the grizzly hackle in front of the spinner wings! I'm lazy I just used a black marker for the front edge! your slim profile nymph is very nice also and I will take note!!! thanks again for sharing a world of info and patterns.
     
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    2005_0526chopaka0003-1.JPG DSCF2710.JPG Actually, it's a thin slip of teal flank and it is rather difficult to get tied in without twisting out of position. I'll have to think about using a marker pen.

    Like most insects, Callibaetis adapt to the predominant colors of their environments. The bodies of Callibaetis nymphs and duns can range from tan to gray and even a very pale gray-olive. The wings of duns at Lake Chopaka are mottled a rich, dark brown while those at Lenice are are cream-colored with markings that appear to be a dark gray. Damsel nymphs are another good example; I've seen them in colors ranging from a reddish-brown to straw-colored (but never in the chartreuse that so many patterns seem to favor).

    Here are a couple of pictures of Callibaetis spinners just to add to the confusion. The first is a male from Chopaka and the second a female from Lake Lenice. I almost wonder if they aren't different subspecies.
     
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    Great photo's! and they sure look different to me, not just in color. I'f they are cream color at east lake I think I will cry! I'm not going to tie a few dozen different colored patterns for them before I leave next week. I will just have to cross my fingers and make sure my travel tying kit has the materials to tie a few cream patterns fast if need be. thanks again for your help and great photo's. The kind of information that really helps dial things in while doing research. tight lines!!!
     
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    The cream color is in reference to the wings. I'm sure that if you tie some with grey or tan bodies you'll be in the ballpark. I've always wanted to fish East Lake but have yet to get around to it.
     
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    I echo everyone's comments on the variability in the coloration of Callibaetis. The Dry Fall bugs are light tan and the spinners are cream. At the same time, the Callibaetis at Leech Lake have a mottled black/dark gray. The Callibaetis that emerged from Coldwater yesterday afternoon had brown/gray wings. This is a clear situation where it pays to have several color versions of the same style if one is fishing Callibaetis in multiple lakes. I have had success with spinners at some lakes, especially later in the hatch when there are not many bugs still hatching and the fish are in clean-up mode.

    In my opinion, proper coloration matters more when lake fishing because the fish have the time to inspect your fly; on multiple occasions, Yes, yes, a hungry fish (naive fish) may take even an Adams as a Callibaetis imitation. I have watched Leech Lake fish rise, inspect, and reject flies. Of course, they may take the same fly after a second or third cast along their cruising path, but you increase your odds if you can minimize refusals. In rivers, there is more importance in placing a fly in the right spot to trigger a reaction strike, though that same scrutiny may occur in slower flows.

    Steve
     
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    In Skips article he ties an "ULTIMATE SKIP NYMPH" I tied mine with a heavy bead for indicator fishing before the hatch starts. He writes that most hatches are on cloudy days and come off around 10 or 11 in the morn over weed beds. I surely can't wait that long to fish so will be using this nymph before the hatch starts. Just thought I would share the idea. this is tied on a standard #12.

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    Preston, i had one of those weekends years ago @ lenice chain where the damsels went from olive to tan to almost bright green. all in 2 days.
    best damsel fishing i have had ever. had to go 6-8 lb tippet. fish were just crushing the fly.
    the colors the bugs have can you keep you at the vise for days.
     
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    Hi Preston,

    I believe the male imago from Chopaka to be Callibaetis ferrugineus hageni, and the female imago from Lenice to be Callibaetis fluctuans.
     
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    Thanks Roger, I can't find fluctuans in my (admittedly limited) reference sources. My usual go-to is Hughes/Hafele's Western Mayfly Hatches (2004), which I realize is aimed at a lay audience. After I took that picture, I sent copies to you and Dave Hughes asking what it was and was surprised when both responses indicated "a female Callibaetis imago".
     
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    Oh my, that's a good one. The fact is, I've learned much more about identifying the winged stages of Callibaetis mayflies to species level in the five years since you sent me that photo. This has largely come from A REVISION OF THE NORTH AMERICAN SPECIES OF CALLIBAETIS (EPHEMEROPTERA: BAETIDAE) by Gary Robert Check, a (167) page thesis submitted to the University of Minnesota in 1982 in partial fulfillment of Gary's Doctoral Degree, which was sent to me in 2009 by a fellow taxonomy enthusiast from Pennsylvania. You might also take a look at WA Mayfly Distribution - By County, and click the link on the map for Grant (County), which shows Callibaetis fluctuans as having been officially recorded at Soda Lake.
     
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    The callibaetis at Pass Lake are really dark bodied. I tie the Chopaka Emerger with a dark pheasant tail body for Pass Lake, and with a callibaetis dyed biot body for Lenice. I use the three elkhair strand tail within about a half-puff of light dun CDC.

    Preston, great looking spinner, almost exactly how I tie them. I add a few strands of UV crystal flash mixed into the poly wing to simulate the irridescent flash that is evident in a spinner's clear wing on the surface.
     
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    Here's the dark variation of the Chopaka Emerger that works really well at Pass Lake. Pheasant tail body matches the naturals there to a T - ribbed with fine gold wire just for durability.

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