Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Steve Vaughn, Nov 4, 2010.
I'm going to start fishing with Nooksak Mac. No need to carry.
I'd like those of you who pack while fishing to answer this question, which seems key. How can you be trained/prepared for a seriously critical moment when an actual attack happens (as unlikely as that may be)?
There is no doubt in my mind that I'm still fishing and discussing these kinds of issues on the WWW because I do not carry.
By not carrying I have enjoyed family, friends, and our beloved sport for 20 years more than I would likely have if I were "packing".
Here's a cool little add- on for those of you carrying Glocks. Could make drawing it in a hurry a bit problematic. When I fish, I carry a Ruger SP-101 5-shot .357. Packs a lot smaller than a Glock- even the compact models like the 27 or 28. Feels more comfortable in the hand as well.
LOL, I've choked out a few tweakers in my day. :rofl: It's not that big a deal. You can't punch them or bitch slap them tho. You have to cut off their air supply to knock them out. That or snap a leg or two so they can't stand structurally, and proceed to put boots to brains. But, yes you are correct, you better be prepared to dish out some serious pain if you go toe to toe with one.
That is the WORST idea in the world.
Ive met some really choice individuals fishing the Kettle around the Curlew area. For the most part, as soon as they learn you arent part of some government conspiracy to steal their land rites they're ok. DEFINITELY NEVER TRESSPASS ON THEIR PROPERTY! The best way Ive found to make peace with those guysd is to carry a flask with you, and offer them a drink. Seriously, this has smoothed out several encounters with locals out there for me. Theres a big dispute between local landowners on the river and the definition of the Kettle as navigable or non navigable. According to them its NON which means they own the river bottom. JUST BE COURTEOUS. Most of those good ol boys are packing heat, "GOING HEELS" is what they call it, and Im pretty sure most of them get more practice with theirs than the average person on this board.
i never realized the danger i was putting myself in by going fishing. the snakes, bears, cougars, tweakers, bobcats, bigfoot, etc in the woods obviously create a clear and present danger to all those on the rivers and in the woods.
it must be by the grace of god that i am still breathing after going fishing yesterday in the woods with only a switch rod and fly box. wait, i forgot i brought my trusty wading stick.
Yes I have a very over-inflated and most likely unrealistic opinion about my ability to fight. I've also ran into several people whom have been hittn' the tweak pretty hard and contrary to what many believe they are not zombies looking to attack any sign of human life. Granted when I do see someone in this condition I keep an eye on them and keep my distance. Never once have i felt threatened or in danger however.
In any of these cases I would have felt more unsafe if I was carrying.
Popcorn anyone? Stayin' outta' this one....been here, done this before!! Them that feel the need to pack will pack, them that don't, won't. Period.
Best advice in this thread man!
The flask works with tweakers as well. Just carry an extra throw away shot glass so you don't get any rotten teeth bits in yer drink. Also, I've never tried it, but have often wondered if blowing fireballs with a swig of high proof would deter a bear as well as pepper spray. I doub't they'd be inclined to attack a fire breathing human. :rofl:
I have more guns than most of you might have. I just love 'em. Handguns, shotguns, rifles, black guns, you name it. I never pack when I'm fishing. But then I don't fish moving water, mostly lakes. The damn thing would be poking me in the side...
Bear spray is my advice if you are asking. Why? Because if you're asking, you don't have a mind set to carry. You're just thinking about it. When I carry there's no questions, there's a reason. What do I carry? Kimber Ultra-carry 45ACP. There will be only one story being told.
Golly, my testosterone is climbing too high, I've gotta go do some aroma therapy...
Seriously, bear spray!
I personally have nothing against those who choose to carry a firearm while fishing, etc.; that is, as long as they are trained in the use of their weapon, and fully realize and accept all the responsibilities involved in carrying it and actually having to use it end another person’s life (may one be so unfortunate). With that being said, I think that situational awareness and common sense (for example, doing ones best to avoid life threatening situations, or leaving a confrontation before it even gets to that point) can go a long way. As far as wildlife is concerned, I was bluff charged by a bear in late spring of 2008. I was hiking on a trail that was surrounded by thick brush and trees, and I could only see about 3- 4 feet on either side. To say the least, this thing tore through the underbrush and came at me so fast that I really did not have any time to react (I take that back, the hair on the back of my neck stood up). Luckily for me, it was only bluffing. I guess what I am saying is that having a firearm wouldn’t have been any help to me when this situation, due to the reason that I did not have any time to react when the bear was charging. It all happened very fast. As a side note, I have encountered a number of bears, and this is the only aggressive encounter that I have had. Anyhow, this is just my 2 cents.
Very well said Roper.