I have Outbound Shorts in #8 in both floater and 7ips sinker. Using my #8 Orvis Zero Gravity I can cast the sinker with a 2/0 clouser 80ft. with decent accuracy every time. For the life of me I cannot get any distance from the floater. I'm lucky to get 40'. I tried it with the BVK 8 wt. and no real improvement. I can get more distance with a standard WF8F line. It's hard to imagine having to over line the rod as the OBS is at least +1. Haven't tried the floater with the closer, mostly with an Airhead which is going to have some wind resistance but not like the deer hair rats we throw on the Delta. It's got to be something I'm doing wrong. Any suggestions?