Thanks for the posts Gordon. Off topic here but I couldn't resist after you mentioned the curved rods. I have an old spliced joint 15' greenheart rod with 2 tips and one of them has a very very distinct curve to it, more than one would think could have been caused by age etc. Well now I'm thinking it might have been made intentionally with the curve. Could you elaborate a bit on how one would identify such a rod? Was the entire rod curved or just the tip section. Any information would be useful and informative. Thanks for your wonderful input!!