Casting!

Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by James Waggoner, Jan 7, 2012.

  1. James Waggoner

    James Waggoner Active Member

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    Klickrolf, I hear ya loud and clear. I was poking around "The Red Shed" trying to convince myself of the same thing. I'm on the tipping point.

    James.
     
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    James,

    What vintage is this powerlite? I think you said it is a 15' 10wt. Mine (13' 8-9-10 and 16' 11) are newer rods (within the last 3 or 4 years) that handle a fast tempo 'asking for more' when you push them. And they have a massive sweet spot. Underlined to overlined they perform great. However they are not forgiving.

    William
     
  3. James Waggoner

    James Waggoner Active Member

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    William, thanks for the reply. It was newly build and purchased. I'm going to the river for an hour for practice later, I'll keep the faster tempo in mind. I was also using a pretty aggresive 8wt. rio sink tip, I should just practice with a full floater for now, I just like to practice with what I plan to fish with. I'll stick to a full floater for practice until I get the timing down and comfortable with the rod.

    James
     
  4. inland

    inland Active Member

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    Aye!!! I see what you are doing. Throwing tips on longer lines is a different deal. Floater to get a feel, then work into tips. Without question the best tips line I have for my big powerlite is the cnd DT 9-10-11. Will single spey t-14 up to about 10' or so (shumakov brass LR tube and 7" dee monkey), and of course 15' tips in 3-8 sink rates up to 129 grains. 109's are even easier. Check with Lee @ snake river outfitters, he has PILES of these DT's left. However they may not be your cup-o-tea for a line. I really, really like them for fishing as a floater or tips line. Easily my favorite when casting up to 40 yards. But they are really good at fishing much shorter distances too.

    Enjoy!

    William
     
  5. James Waggoner

    James Waggoner Active Member

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    William, in your opinion, what are the advantages of a double taper and what casting differences can I expect?

     
  6. speyforsteel

    speyforsteel Degenerate Caster

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    Those powerlites are great rods.
     
  7. inland

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    James,

    The CND DT is a step tapered line. Think of it sorta as two GPS WF lines connected together, in the middle then tapering to each end. Very dynamic casting DT line (different universe from the traditional DT), shoots decently enough, once you get a handle on it you will be able to pick up a lot of line at your hands. Versatility is the biggest key for me with the line. Floater, tips (including t-14, but you do have to open up the loop a bit). Minimal stripping to recast. Plenty of oomph to turn over some big bugs on the floater. Same deal handling the 'W'. Yet not really a distance line. No running line to tangle!!!

    William
     
  8. James Waggoner

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    William, went to the Snake River site and they were all out of the DT lines. I did go ahead and get the 85' GPS 11/12, figured it would be a great one to practice with then when I get used to the rod, I'll have the diameter in the line to cut it back an extra 5' or so to handle tips. What's cool is, it sounds like it's already looped at 20'. These full lines are killing me! I'm running out of reels to put them on...and I hate to buy extra spools because they are about a much as a reel.

    James.
     
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    Wow, they had GPS's? Did they have more?
     
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    James,

    He's got 'em in stock, just not on the website.

    Adam,

    Only the big sizes left- 11/12 and 12/13. Plus I think he said the little 4/5.

    William
     
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    Forgive me for this. Was thinking about B&W rods and somehow came across this thread from the UK. Get a bottle of something strong and drink half of it before reading...and prepare to laugh!! These UK boys are just too much fun...and they don't take prisoners. It's BW vs. Hardy rods, a few years ago.

    And, I apologize James...it'll be no help but I think you'll enjoy!

    http://salmosalar.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=tackleroom&action=display&thread=14313

    These guys somehow connect me to something real...
     
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    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    that was a kickass read, thanks for sharing Klickrolf.
    Those Brits sure can tell a story with color.
     
  14. James Waggoner

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    So got my CND line yesterday. Awesome! Used some 125grn 14' tips on it and it worked fairly well, tomorrow I'll try some 109grn tips. The full floater at 85' was a real joy to cast. I really liked the extra grains, this line is about 200grns heavier than the 10/11 carron I was using. May have to buy a 11/12 carron in the near future once I get familiar with the rod.

    William, took your advice on picking up the tempo and it seems it's paying off. I've also notice, some bottom hand power into the backstroke is key to eliminating excess line stick. Been working predominately with river right casts...left hand singles, right hand snakes and Doubles, need to find some river left!

    More, video to come, hopefully by Sunday!

    Thanks, James.
     
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    Very Cool! Lighter tips will be a breeze.

    William