Catch and Release???

freestoneangler

Not to be confused with Freestone
#32
That's their purpose, they are bred and raised by men for men. They are literally made to kill and eat. I kill every hatchery fish I catch as well. I also make toast in every toaster I buy, and open every present thats given to me.
I see the church choir is picking up a few more member's...
 
#33
I agree with sticking with the regs. I keep very rarely and only hatchery
trout, steelhead all hatchery. I think there. Are a lot of opinions and
everyone is entitled to there own, we could open a whole wormhole
of opinions on what is wild and what is not, I have probably said to much
already.
Kelly Micheleen
 

Kcahill

Active Member
#34
So a strange story that happened to me this week on the subject.

I fish the same lake everyday, rain or shine, i try to make it at least an hour a day since it is in my backyard, literally.

It is a public lake, that the state stocks, but it is pretty small(less than 100 acres) and a normal sunny weekend day of fishing there are 2-3 boats out there.

Well as of Monday there has been a raft with an older couple in it, when I saw them the first day i waved and said hello and asked how they were doing, but they ignored me and I moved on, they didnt even wave. As I watched them while throwing flies at the shore for bass I noticed they were pulling in stocker rainbow after rainbow and gutting them on the spot. Like they literally would pull one in, take it off the hook, hand it to his wife, and she would gut it while he put more powerbait on and got the pole back in the water. They spent hours out there killing rainbows like they were angry at them.

Since then I have noticed they have been out there everyday, yesterday in the one hour i was out there they killed 8 fish, so I am guessing based on the time they are out there per day vs the number of fish per hour i see them take when I pay attention they are killing well over 10 a day, lets say if they are following the regs 50 since monday.

At this rate if they are out there daily they will fish the lake out of stockers in a period of months just by themselves.


I have been wondering for the past couple of days why they would kill so many, you cant possibly eat that many by yourself, but after reading this thread maybe they are on a mission from god to destroy hatchery fish?
 
#35
I'm in the camp of taking only what I can eat that night(3-4 for 3ppl) or if my grandma asks for me to drop fish by her place (1-2). Pretty much I only take fish from pine lake and other lakes that are heavily targeted by the conventional angler. Haven't taken one from lone yet, although my mom pressures me to everything I send her photos of my fish. Haha

As for that couple...if they are taking more than the regs allows, you may want to call it in. Especially if it's happening all the time.

Just my 2cents
 

Kcahill

Active Member
#36
As for that couple...if they are taking more than the regs allows, you may want to call it in. Especially if it's happening all the time.

Just my 2cents
If they are out there again this weekend I might, but I dont REALLY know they take more than the regs allow, but im pretty sure. I tried to strike up a conversation with them yesterday but either they dont speak english or were acting like they dont. If I see them out there everyday this weekend though Ill call them in.

KC
 
#37
I should qualify my original statement, I fish pass lake from time to time, and have never kept a fish and I believe those fish are stocked. So in reality I don't kill every hatchery fish I encounter.
Don't start keep fish out of Pass now (not that I think you were going to).. The lake is mandatory 100% catch and release.
 
#38
I don't catch and release anything if its a legal keeper. If I can't keep what I catch I wont fish there. Catch and release is a waste. If you really cared about killing native fish you wouldn't risk possibly killing them by catching them in the first place. Catch and release has turned fishing into just another yuppie gear game.
 

Salmo_g

Well-Known Member
#41
I don't catch and release anything if its a legal keeper. If I can't keep what I catch I wont fish there. Catch and release is a waste. If you really cared about killing native fish you wouldn't risk possibly killing them by catching them in the first place. Catch and release has turned fishing into just another yuppie gear game.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but it's an uninformed one. While fish don't benefit from being caught, society does. And fish populations overall can benefit as well, contributing to improved quality of life for a rapidly expanding society. Wild trout populations like in the Yellowstone River (CNR since 1973) are very healthy, and the excellent fishing has helped make thousands of people into enthusiastic proponents of wild trout conservation nationwide. The result is more wild trout conservation nationally, and even globally that are either direct or indirect results of that early CNR policy. I'd be hard pressed to call that a waste.

Sg
 

freestoneangler

Not to be confused with Freestone
#42
When we have fish biologists with years of training telling us that we should kill every hatchery steelhead we catch, I'd put more weight on their statements than your opinions based on nothing but misinformation and delusion.
Keep singing Evan, you're a bit off tune to some of us out here, but no doubt sound great to the rest of the choir. I suppose you also only consider the opinions of climatologists who say global warming is a man-made phenomena? In any case, feel free to club the ones I let go...unless reg's required I keep.
 
#43
Keep singing Evan, you're a bit off tune to some of us out here, but no doubt sound great to the rest of the choir. I suppose you also only consider the opinions of climatologists who say global warming is a man-made phenomena? In any case, feel free to club the ones I let go...unless reg's required I keep.
Provide us with one piece of peer reviewed evidence that your claims are valid, and I might "change my pitch" as you like to put things.

At this point, I have only gathered that you spout this nonsense to be different.
 

Krusty

Active Member
#44
I haven't kept a fish in over 30 years (and I've been fishing for well over 50 years). I just don't like eating them....but for people who enjoy the taste, there's nothing wrong with a harvest respectful of the resource. These things aren't going to die in a nursing home.
 

freestoneangler

Not to be confused with Freestone
#45
Provide us with one piece of peer reviewed evidence that your claims are valid, and I might "change my pitch" as you like to put things.

At this point, I have only gathered that you spout this nonsense to be different.
Whose peers...those in the choir who only like certain tunes? Like you, I can simply say poppycock to your claims and positions. Similar to the global warming debate, not all scientists are on the same side of the argument. There is lots we don't know about these creatures; such as their complete migratory routes and how pure the genetic strains are for unclipped fish we now count as "wild steelhead". Inconvenient facts are stubborn things; particularly when they do not support the desired outcome or subscribe to the church of wild steelhead teachings.