Centerpin

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by candr, Aug 3, 2012.

  1. dflett68

    dflett68 Active Member

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    glory and amen brother. but i will say that the new testament is more cogent than it gets credit for.
     
  2. bennysbuddy

    bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    We've all ready been there, this is just another fishing side show on WFF. no harm done
     
  3. PfleugerPhister

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    I have decided the haters aren't worthy of knowing any pin secrets. If anyone would like to have a discussion about the merits of the mighty pin or different methodology, shoot me a message and maybe I can learn a thing or two as well. Pin fishing is the bees knees and I'm certain any of you haters have not felt the intensity of a mid-teens steelhead taking off with no drag as the handles tear into your knuckles. You can keep that carbor fiber disc drag reel.

    Haters gon hate
     
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  4. Robert Engleheart

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    It ain't hate, brother, it's just not flyfishing. I learned to fish steelhead with gear; old pre-war Pfleuger Supreme that scalded the $#!+ outta my thumb on those Northern Oregon coastal winter-run fish, so I can imagine a center-pin reel. BTW my reel's drag is set just tight enough to prevent overrun.
     
  5. TallFlyGuy

    TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

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    I don't think anyone said it was flyfishing, but neither is using a big ass indicator with lots of split shot on a fly rod. Both are gear fishing in my eyes. I would just rather use a center pin than nymph in the nymph water.
     
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  6. Ian Broadie

    Ian Broadie Flyfishing is so "Metal"

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    I concur.
     
  7. golfman65

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    ditto here...fishing gear with a fly rod is still fishing gear..

    That is a milner and I have an angspec as well..they are locked away in my closet in the mancave...the rods are up on the wall getting dusty..

    Pins are true knucklebusters...and the drift you can get with them is better then any other gear reel as there is no tension...BUT...as others who have been there know...after awhile, the challenge isn't really there anymore...

    I know guys who have fished longer then most of you have been alive, guys who catch more steelhead in a season, hell in a week then 90% on here have in their life times...and they fish gear and we've had talks and they can't understand why I choose the fly? They've asked me..."Don't you like catching fish"? Of course I do, that's why I'm out there....but for me, the fly presented more of a challenge, eventually that became more of a connection not only to the fish but to the history of fishing with the fly and spey rod....

    You can find skill in your different mixes of roe...you can tie your own jigs....but my satisfaction came from tying my own flies and actually catching steelhead with them...there are many stages and skill sets that come with fishing a fly...from dryline to sinktips, from intruders to classic's...That journey is what makes flyfishing so much more to me then gear fishing...not better...not above others...my brain is just wired for progressing through each stage..and each stage is very exciting to me....That's something I didn't get with gear...so here I am..

    I will say this...I would rather fish next to a skilled fisherman with a pin rod then a guy using a fly rod and bobber...If you don't understand that then I don't think you've spent enough time on the water...
     
  8. Flyborg

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    Figging: (verb) - the practice of spouting fundamentalist beliefs, derived from the acronym (Fundamentalism Is Good.)

    (verb) - Figging is a sexual practice involving the insertion of a prepared "finger" of ginger root or even pepper into the anus.

    Mmmmm figging.
     
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  9. Creatch'r

    Creatch'r Heavies...

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    I don't care one bit either way but you say all that about finding skill in different aspects and then end it by contradicting yourself and take away any credibility to someone who doesn't approach things with your view. Just funny the stigma nymphing carries with people that don't understand it.... Just like a gear guy who doesn't "get" swinging flies. Not every gear guy is a poaching redneck, not every fly line/bobber guy is a dirtbag and not every swinger is a pretentious tweed I do know that.

    I tie my own nymphs and paint my own beads just the same as I tie hair wings or intruders. With specific attention to detail. My yarnies are probably more tech than a lot of classic hair wings honestly. I build my leaders to specific circumstance there is purpose to every inch. Even my indicators/bobbers and the way I rig them are tuned in. Reading water and having a handle on line control is paramount. Lobbing a bobber and jig and high sticking mono or braid over the swirling currents and feeding line (while still requiring skill) is nothing compared to managing 50 feet of flyline draped across the river. It's as easy or as tech as you make it. (isn't that fishing in general?)

    I nymph with a fly rod on certain waters that suit the technique and at times I find it enjoyable. Just the same as I swing flies and I approach both with the same thought and intensity. And when it all comes together its a pretty deadly technique on everything that swims our rivers. And can be a real blast. I could get a pin or float rod and fish a broader array of water types with greater ease of efficiency but why would I do that? I enjoy the challenge of fishing the fly.

    Having said that I haven't nymphed in months. Starting to sound fun....

    Center pins look fun although i can't justify buying one and the appropraite tackle to fish it when I know full well I won't make the time to fish it enough. There already seems to be too few hours in the day. Summers are eating dry flies right now anyways I find myself even looking at gear guys like they're crazy lol

    It's all a matter of perspective I guess.
     
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  10. Charles Sullivan

    Charles Sullivan dreaming through the come down

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    Whenever someone starts a gear based thread here I have a hard time figuring out if they are trolling or just too stupid to post it on an appropriate bulletin board. The only thing more baffling is people getting their panties in a bunch when the post is not recieved well. My 5 yr old daughter has thicker skin than many of the adults around.

    I haven't busted out a flyrod since April. In that time I've fished for lingcod/ cabezon, jigged for kings in the Salt, and trolled for Sockeye. I had many questions about what I was doing and whether I was doing it right. I didn't at any point think," You know where I can get that information?....WFF!"

    Summerun trips are coming up soon though so I'll be back engaged in my favorite activity. Well at least my favorite that takes place standing up. If I have flyfishing questions, I will come here.

    Go Sox,
    cds
     
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  11. bennysbuddy

    bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    I don't get all this bitchin, people post weather reports, form football pools & the longest running post on this forum is about Penn State & joe and the boys lack of morales. And all that shit was no big deal But mention a centerpin and oh boy !!!
     
  12. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    I'm waiting for the wolves attack angler because he was using a centerpin thread....
     
  13. dflett68

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    this is spot on. ostensibly, the motive for posts trying to shout this topic out of existence is that it's not fly fishing and this is a fly fishing forum. but you don't find those posts from those people on threads about photoshopping bobo or joe paterno or wolves or guns, blah blah. it looks more like good old fashioned priggery. yes the logic makes sense - it's washington fly fishing, but as that logic obviously is not applied rigidly or universally, why get uptight about it selectively? just skip the threads you aren't interested in and let chris scoones be the judge of what belongs on his site.
     
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  14. TallFlyGuy

    TallFlyGuy Adipossessed!

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    I was out fishing with my buddy, and he started to talk about women parts or something like that. I told him to shut the hell up cuz we are only allowed to talk about fly fishing while we are fly fishing.
     
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  15. PfleugerPhister

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    First rule about fly fishing is you do not talk about fly fishing while not fly fishing.
    Second rule about fly fishing is you only talk about fly fishing while fly fishing.
    Third rule about fly fishing is only one fly at a time
    Fourth rule about fly fishing is you will false cast as long as you have to.
    Fifth rule about fly fishing is to take yourself way to seriously