Tony, All good info, thanks. I got the impression from talking with some people that their nets were out everyday. My wrong. I can live with two days a week. Perhaps I pulled in on the wrong day. Ha. I know a lot of the tribes do good work, don't misunderstand me. I used to know the biologist with the Suquamish Tribe, not sure if he's still there, but was really a good guy for the tribe to have. I've had two poor experiences this year with other tribes that always get to me. And perhaps I should pursue going to their fisheries directors just to get some answers and/or write some letters. One thing that still drives me crazy is I believe they can still catch and kill cutthroat. (Someone tell me if I'm wrong--in the salt that is) It's the beach seining that drives me crazy when I am out cutthroat fishing and their nets are strung from the top of the beach on down thru the shallow water into the depths. Someone tell me if it is unreasonable to ask the tribes whether they can eliminate the beach seine net for the first 100-150' or so, so the cutthroat can swim along the beach shoreline and PERHAPS not get caught in their nets! Since it is "catch and release" for me, why isn't it so for the tribes? (except it's too late when in the nets). A few years ago, a tribe was netting like this and I also found out that they were suppose to be 1000' from the creek mouth. They were not. I called the tribe enforcement officer and he called me back and said he "busted" them for whatever that means. He was very polite. So, a couple of weeks ago, a tribe on the same beach was at the same location. I asked whether he was suppose to be 1000' from the creek mouth and he said no, it was changed to 600'. I have no idea if that is true or not. Or, if it depends on the tribe. This was the S'Klallam Tribe (if I spelled that right). Previously, it was the Skokomish Tribe. I can say my encounters were very good and polite conversations. Another case this Spring was fishing a catch and release lake. A tribe member and his buddies were killing trout. I asked about it to them and they said they are members of the tribe and those rules didn't apply to them. I think that was a lie, but I am not certain. I guess all I am saying is it sure doesn't hurt to have some conversations with people when you want to know if they are following the rules, sorta helps that they might think that there are actually people watching them to see if they are following tribal rules and regs.