Chironimide Fishing: Breaking it Down for "Dummies"

Irafly

Indi "Ira" Jones
#31
WOW Ira a personal attack, did I offend you, bobber, indicator, this is a long running debate, I tend to play devils advocate and enjoy stirring the pot just to see what will rise, oh yeah and I can be an ass but its mostly for entertainment, but from you I 'm feeling something on a more personal level and I'm hurt, deeply, I guess I won't be getting any invites huh, ah screw this, you want to debate I'll debate, but if you just want to give me shit, piss off I don't need it.
Weren't you giving someone else unsolicited shit when you brought up the debate in the first place? I throw a little your way and notice how you took it? Do you imagine that the other poster might have taken your post as offensive? If you said "No, how could they!", then how could you take mine offensively? If you said "Yes!", why did you mean to offend them in the first place? Either way I didn't mean to offend I was mearly pointing out the difference between a bobber and a strike indicator and pointing out to you that if you believe the two are the same then you should let your indicator bob.

Dude I'm not an A-Hole just ask around.

Ira.
 
#33
I'll vouche for Ira. Great guy. Helpful indeed.

Ira: did you say you were coming out on Sunday? :) I FINALLY learned the loop knot you taught me. took a while to get a hang of it.
 

ribka

Active Member
#36
(Assuming one is using a floating line with..... and wanting to chironimide fish....)

When I was out on Martha yesterday, I got the rod ready, slip indicator on, and flies tied. Went out on the water, fastened the hemostats to the bottom fly and lowered it down to get the depth. Now.... the depth took all of my leader and some of my fly line. When this happens, what do you do? Where do you set up the indicator? Not on the fly line itself??? What would you do if this happened? Add more tippet? Move to a shallower part of the lake?
Over 12 ft I go to intermediate ( clear mono) or full sinking. Use a depth finder. After some practice can get proficient on how much to let out ( trolling) and speed combo to reach desired depth. Have fished to 35 ft this way with success. You can can stick with your "bobber fishing":rofl:
 
#37
I deep chirono fish two ways. 1. With floating line, straight 6# or 8# flouro and a slip indicator/bobber/float/corkie/florescent orange foam ball with a hole in the center for a plastic peg 90% of the time. Call it what you want, but it does the same thing. Catches me fish.
I fish it like Joni does, up to 30' deep. Can't cast it, so I drop it down and kick away about 20'+/- a few and watch the paint dry (it's usually very quick drying paint). Using a sonar for that area, I measure out the length I need and bring it off the bottom 18" or so with the bottom fly. I use a Gamakatzu dropper bead for the top fly, and a split shot to get it down and keep it down- 6" above the bottom fly.
http://www.gamakatsu.com/new_products/new_dropperbead.htm

#2- I also use the Type V or VII sinking line method. 6' flouro leader, find my depth and measure off that much line. Cast it out and let it sink until it's straight down. Slow figure 8 retrieve. This is one method I get savage strikes.
 

ribka

Active Member
#38
micro leech under a bobber has been known to work quite well too ( hint). I throw a micro leech with a chronie trailer sometimes
 

Tony

Left handed Gemini.
#39
As far as I can tell upon a reread of my post it wasn't really directed at anyone it was just a comment about indicators I guess if your name is indicator you might in some way feel offended by my comments, so my statement stands.
tony
 

Irafly

Indi "Ira" Jones
#40
As far as I can tell upon a reread of my post it wasn't really directed at anyone it was just a comment about indicators I guess if your name is indicator you might in some way feel offended by my comments, so my statement stands.
tony
Try again Tony, you were replying to Zagnut's #17 post when he asked people polietly to please not call strike indicators bobbers. So your statement really does not stand. Just sayin.

Ira..
 

Irafly

Indi "Ira" Jones
#41
I deep chirono fish two ways. 1. With floating line, straight 6# or 8# flouro and a slip indicator/bobber/float/corkie/florescent orange foam ball with a hole in the center for a plastic peg 90% of the time. Call it what you want, but it does the same thing. Catches me fish.
I fish it like Joni does, up to 30' deep. Can't cast it, so I drop it down and kick away about 20'+/- a few and watch the paint dry (it's usually very quick drying paint). Using a sonar for that area, I measure out the length I need and bring it off the bottom 18" or so with the bottom fly. I use a Gamakatzu dropper bead for the top fly, and a split shot to get it down and keep it down- 6" above the bottom fly.
http://www.gamakatsu.com/new_products/new_dropperbead.htm

#2- I also use the Type V or VII sinking line method. 6' flouro leader, find my depth and measure off that much line. Cast it out and let it sink until it's straight down. Slow figure 8 retrieve. This is one method I get savage strikes.
I have never seen that bead before, I may just have to give it a try, although I have for the most part developed my cast in a way to avoid the tangle.

Ira..
 
#42
OK thanks guys for your help!

On a normal day when you are fishing chironimides how many will you use on your fly line? Like will you use the little chain of flys? all tied off of each other? (if you know what i mean)
 

Blue

Active Member
#43
OK thanks guys for your help!

On a normal day when you are fishing chironimides how many will you use on your fly line? Like will you use the little chain of flys? all tied off of each other? (if you know what i mean)

In Utah we are only allowed two, so that is what I use, but I do a tag about 2' to 3' up from the bottom one.
 

Irafly

Indi "Ira" Jones
#44
OK thanks guys for your help!

On a normal day when you are fishing chironimides how many will you use on your fly line? Like will you use the little chain of flys? all tied off of each other? (if you know what i mean)
I've tried three, but that just seems to gum up the works. Two seems to work best but most of my fish come on my bottom bug.

Ira..
 
#45
I mostly fish with just one, If I use two the distance between them is at least 18" to 24", That way no foul hooking of the fish as I have seen happen when the distance is around 12". my 1.5 cents worth.