I'm wondering if certain rod traits lend themselves well to casting long leaders and indicators or is it up to the caster to make the necessary adjustments to their casting stroke. I am very focused on learning this technique for stillwaters but I find that I have a hell of a time casting these setups. I'm thinking this may be due at least partially to my fast action rods. Yesterday I was using a z 490 for this purpose and I had a hell of a time not tangling. This has always been a.problem. I know I'm supposed to open my loops but my z axis and xp rods I love and fish seem to not excel at this. I'm considering picking up a rod with a more moderate action....thinking Perhaps this may help me in this area? Or am I just in need of some casting tuning? What rods do you like for bobbers/long leaders and why?