Coneheads

Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by Salmo_g, Jun 18, 2008.

  1. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    that's kickass tying, Matt.
    where'd you learn the wax dipping trick? that's cool
     
  2. Mr.E

    Mr.E He called me an Elitist ?? LOL ..what a moron

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    I use the bead method or while tying up the wings, I leave extra material and a drop of hardhat or head cement onto the material then shove the cone over it. Make a few turns of the thread in front of the cone to anchor it down.
     
  3. s2ary

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    I like the hot wax/epoxy method Matt.:thumb:

    Can you post a picture of the fingernail polish, I'm having a bit of trouble visualizing that.
    Thanks,
    Geoff:beer2:
     
  4. Matt Burke

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    How do I come up with that crap. First, your tying area needs to consume an entire dinning room table. Over time, a ton of non-flytying crap will accumulate with the fur and hooks. The first time I did the fill the cup trick, epoxy went right through the meatus of the head, some eyes had some run off down one side or were completely occluded within five minutes. That’s painful! The candle was right there. I lit it and dipped and tried it again. Done.
     
  5. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Matt said meatus of the head...:rofl:
     
  6. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    wonder if that hot wax thing would work in reverse for catheter insertion...:eek:
    OK, sorry I went there...Matt and Mumbles are a baaaaad influence on me.
     
  7. Matt Burke

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    Man you get that rotary nor vise spinning high RPM's. I like the red nail polish gill spinning, I think I'll try that on some of my epoxy head and cone head patterns. Maybe I'll paint eyes on my cone heads, add a red gill then coat with a bit of epoxy.
     
  9. Brian P

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    I second the few wire wraps thing. I do this and have never had a problem with the cone head slipping.
     
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    I use coneheads mainly for my big fall streamers that see alot of abuse. I generally do lead wraps (enough so that the lead is even with the outside), then wrap thread at the base of the lead wraps to hold it in place. I'll do this on a couple hooks (however many I'm getting ready to tie) and then stick them into foam like Burke mentioned. For the next step I generally use a few drops of superglue because I am impatient and the superglue sets up almost instantly. I've never had a problem with the glue going to the eye of the hook, and my cones never come loose.
     
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    Me three on the lead wire, except I use lead substitute. 3 or 4 turns, pinch it off, then slide up into the cone and glue.
     
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    "It dips the cone into the wax, or else the epoxy runs out the gap!"

    Matt "Buffalo Bill" Burke from "silence of the cones"...
     
  13. Matt Burke

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    I really should redo that video.
     
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    ditto. i don't tie too many flies that use coneheads, but this method works for me.

     
  15. Mr.E

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    I've not seen a chart but just experiment with different sizes. What ever one the hook passes through works for me or if tying tube flies, which ever one the tube passes through.