Dead Chickens

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  1. Jack Devlin

    Jack Devlin Active Member

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    IMG_0704.JPG Pattick,
    I knew your pattern with the green butt looked familiar to me. Finally recalled the name: Female Coachman. . I tied up a few on sw and fw hooks with arctic fox wings.
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  3. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    I think the version I came across in Patricks fly pattern book called for a hackle tip wing.
     
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    It certainly does look like a Gray Hackle Yellow but those were primarily dry flies.... very old pattern. I've heard of a Dead Chicken but never bothered to look up the pattern because I didn't know any one who used them.

    Kind'a simple. Does look like the wet version of a Gray Hackle Yellow tied with yellow chenille instead of yellow floss.

    I tied something similar for the SRC in Oregon but with a pink body instead of yellow and it worked quite well in the tidewater area of a major coastal river.

    So that's a Dead Chicken... now I know.
     
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    For the old ones on this site. I learned about the dead chicken from Ed Foss that would use it all the time and I thought someone told me he came up with the pattern. Could be wrong, but use it a lot for Cutthrout in the sound.
     
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    I got to thinking..........I've tied a Dead Chicken in many forms but left out a nymph.:)

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    Zen, A mid-sixties edition of Roy Patrick's Pacific Northwest Fly Patterns calls for no wing, Red hackle fiber tail, yellow chenille body, medium silver tinsel rib four turns, barred hackle 2 turns only
     
  8. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    I'll check my book Preston. I may be thinking of the Chappie. I tied some of these patterns back in the early 70's when I bought the book.
     
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    A Chappie has an orange body .
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    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    I realize the colors are different. When I got the book I tied up some of the old patterns in it. It was so long ago I don't remember the recipes only the names. That's how I thought the Dead Chicken had a wing.

    Also, my attempts at the flies, back in the early 70's, looked nothing like your versions.
     
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    Zen,
    Thanks for mentioning and reminding me of the Chappie. Great cutthroat fly. Haven't used one in a long time. I am going to tie up a few.
    Jack
     
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    There's a hatch of small golden stoneflies on The Metolius in Oregon. I've used a nymph on The Met similar to the one shown above and it did work. So.. the "Dead Chicken Nymph" is a viable pattern.

    Yet, I've seen dead chickens and not one of any of the patterns above look remotely like one in the least... :D
     
  13. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide.

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    Pink. I've had great luck fishing a Borden Special. I think the mixed pink and yellow hackle is a good color combo.

    Also, thanks for mentioning that the Gray Hackle Yellow is a dry pattern. That clears up my confusion about these patterns.
     
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    Yup, the SRC in Oregon prefer pink. Tie the pattern in pink and you have a danged fine SRC pattern for the Alsea River. In fact, I have... I just didn't know what it was. Evidently... it was a pink Dead Chicken that doesn't look like a Dead Chicken.
     
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    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide.

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    I found a misplaced bag of mangy looking wet grizzly that I plucked from a dead chicken when my friend was killing and butchering a few of his birds. They oughta work just fine for cutthroat flies!