Tall, Yep, I read it before I posted anything. I've also read all the other posts on the thread. So, let's take a look at how most folks would take what Brian wrote. Given a traditional head length of say 50'-70', it becomes difficult to get a cast out with this little room, much less turn over a fly of substantial size and weight! So again, the Skagit head was designed to turn over these large flies in what some may feel is an industrial manner. Since he wrote: 1) that a traditional head length line makes it difficult to cast with little room; 2) much less turn over a fly of substantial size and weight; and 3) the Skagit head was designed to turn over these large flies, the average newcomver will read this as Skagit heads are what is used to cast large, heavy flies and also the line to use when there is limited room behind the angler to form a D Loop. Therefore, by implication, the newcomer will decide erroneously that he needs to go out and buy a Skagit head setup because it is the way to go for casting large flies and so casting smaller flies ought to be a breeze. Then there are all the posts by those telling folks that long rods and long-belly lines (that is line with bellies of 75'-100') are either for fools or those who don't know anybetter. to fish. We have simply pointed out that there are ways other than using Skagit lines to fish big, heavy flies. I've said this many times and it is worth repeating it again, the belly length line, length of rod, and line weight rating of the rod are personal preferences and there are not right or wrong combinations, just different ones. Plus, one is not better than another, just different and each has its own difficulties. This is why some of us point out that there are other ways of spey casting with different belly length lines when someone posts something that implies or point blank says so that there is this one and only one way to do it.