Many thanks guys for all the helpful advice...went up friday morning...fished by the KOA the afternoon wading..caught a bunch of whitefish and a couple decent bows...though didn't land them...one hit my pt on a 3.5 pound tippet and laughed at me as he raced out to mid river and was gone...the other, was a decent fish too...got him nearly in when my stupid (me) stillwater indicator released, slid down the line and over the fly...effectively quick release...hmmm maybe I should sell this idea to the purists???:rofl: Talked to the guys at the shops and they also recommended the ringer down, canyon run...Well, that river is still a beast there too...I nearly lost it all at the launch...my rod hung up in the trees as I was kicking (attempted) out...I thought, piece of cake, I can kick and hold in this...WRONG...I got swept down along the bank...smacking almost every tree and root...had to pull my legs up to keep from getting caught up on one and couldn't get but one oar out...In short it was a serious F*** story...cut the hell out of my hand on the backing but managed to finally free myself and rod without damage over a hundred yards down stream to my friends (after I was safe) laughter...thank god for over a hundred yards of backing or i'd have lost my line first thing... My W.M. has a mis drilled oar so one was nearly useless...( I'll be making an angry call tomorrow to them)...and kick as hard as you may, your NOT even slowing very much in that water...After my a$$ unpuckered, I made my way down and after a mile I got the hang of it... The fishing...Well, I caught about a 4 pound sucker!!! couldn't believe it..thought I had a BIG bow as he was stripping out line off the reel a few runs...but was still fun...Made my way into a nice little section mid way and it started to drizzle a little and the March Brown hatch came on...Man was that fun, lost count of how many fish I caught...everything from little salomnoids to bows AND whitefish..lots of them again...didn't know they took drys???? All in all a great time and trip...there were no islands etc. to really speak of to stop and fish off of...you had to get to one side or another...I pretty dissapointed in my watermaster...the oar really screwed me up and like I said, it was nearly useless with fins on that level for me...I SHOULD have worn my wading boots, it would have been allot easier on me... Another guy took his poontoon and after the first hour we didn't see him till the take out...He couldn't stop at all and pretty much was totally bummed by his experience...never touched a fish and had to wait for four plus hours for us to make it down to where he finally got over... All in all, I was super happy with my experience and the river...and totally dissapointed in my boat...I will call and get the oars straightened out...hopefully they will do something to remedy this...We've ( a couple of us have WM's in the club) been hearing allot of promises from them but no deliverys...So we'll see!!! Again, many thanks for all the help...Wish I could fish it more often!!!