Discussion in 'Saltwater' started by Evan Burck, Aug 13, 2007.
Thats pretty screwed up stuff man. Sorry you had to put up with that crap.
I dont like talking to people when im out lol....so if you ever talk to me on some random occasion im sorry for being an ass. By the way shoulda got some of that sinking line on and caught ya a big one.
dang, haven't seen this thread in a few months
There's nothing you can do about the inexcusable experience you had the other day, but if you fish there often, and don't want a repeat performance, you do have some leverage. The post says that the group was of student divers. There aren't that many shops in the area, so a couple of phone calls will tell you where these people came from.
Contact the shop, let them know what happened, and show them the posts that clearly indicate how close this class came to causing violence. If this was a class, there was an instructor and dive
masters on site, and they are 100% responsible for enabling the situation. Dive instructors are subject to a very high standard of care and responsibility. I speak from the standpoint of both a former instructor and program manager, and would personally fire the lot, and likely not certify the offending students.
The dive shop doesn't want that kind of publicity, and the certifying agency (most likely PADI, NAUI or YMCA) will not put up with that sort of crap. It is the instructor's responsibility to control the class, and the shop's to control the instructor. Let the shop owner know that you'll call the cops the next time, and report the recent incident so there is a precedent when you call again.
The dive class is there to make money, and if they lose their beach privileges, instructors licenses and or insurance, they've got business problems, which will influence even the most disreputable operators.
Too bad there weren't some GEAR GUYS around with treble hooks practicing snagging! Or hey, a new Orvis catalogue product---a flourescent street cone that reads "Fly Fishing in Progress, Stay the Hell Away."
I know this is hard for some of us to understand, but there are people worldwide who:
1. Could give a shit about flyfishing
2. Think flyfishing is great, but do not understand it or it's "ettiquette".
3. Think fishing of all types is cruel and just another bloodsport.
4. Used to like the principles of flyfishing but then were accosted by one of our own snotty asshole types and now hate all of us.
5. Wanted to switch from gear fishing to flyfishing but were treated like shit in their first trip to a flyshop so they turned to the dark arts forever.
6. Have been low-holed by flyfishermen.
7., Have had a good run to themselves and two speyrodders (I'm one of those guys) show up and take up 90% of the run area.
8. Have tried to befriend a flyfisherman and like our "Master Angler" stated above, (don't take it personnel "Master", I can be an asshole hermit out there myself") and have been treated like a Sauk River Sucker you thought was a steelhead on the pull.
9. Are just flat out assholes who need their asses kicked
10. Are a combination of all of the above.
Fellas, these "I got lowholed" or "Divers took my water" threads reak of passive aggressive ****dom. Educate the bastards, or kick their ass, but quit whining about it. We are never going to convince the whole world that what we do is the only or right way
this thread is months old and got bumped suddenly. i'm obviously "over it" by now. haha
At least you'll always have the best "low-hole story" at the barbecue.:beer2:
Hey Evan, I'll close out this arcane thread by saying, with a wistful stare and a tear in my eye, Imagine how much more fun we could have had if Jessie and I would have been there with you \m/:clown:\m/.
the diver would have thought, "better keep my yap shut.... with that guy there's a 300lb gorilla and a guy with upside down crosses on his shirt.... i'm going to bet beaten and sacrificed.... shit..."
What is it with people, that when they happen upon a fly fisher in a lake or on a stream they have to always get in their way. Like standing directly behind you when you are on a lake shore trying to cast. Or a kayaker coming down the river have to stop in the hole you are fishing and do a roll. After all is said and done, they ask hows the fishing. Duh.
Too bad a girl was with you, you could have just completely laid him out flat on his scuba gear:thumb:
Or, what about that friendly family that comes down to the waters edge and ask you " How's the fishing?" while their kids are throwing rocks in the water....
Where I live we don´t generally have a problem with divers, most are tourists led by local guides. It´s a small town so the regular fishermen know the diving instructors here and generally coexist quite happily (After all, we´re all boud to encounter each other in a bar sometime! )..
The real problem is the tourists snorkelling, they couldn´t give a damn what they do.... They seem completely oblivious to their surroundings! Having said that, perhaps that´s just a vacation mentality - these are probably the same people who walk down the middle of the road unaware of the existence of automabiles cars because they are on vacation!
Does part of the brain shut down when on vacation I wonder?