Downton Abbey

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  1. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    On CANE spey rods, prolly with spliced joints no less.

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  2. Jack Devlin

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    I would have known they were Hardys without seeing them when I heard the signature drag sound.
    My Dad's Cane Spey rod had spliced joints.
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    Hmmm. Sound a lot like Game of Thrones . . .minus the cars and fly fishing.
     
  4. Patrick Gould

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    There was a fish? We watch it on Amazon, and If there's a scene with a fish it must have been cut out. Matthew got what he deserved for that cast.
     
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    For those perplexed. Here's a link to the episode in question. I cry every. damn. time.

     
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  6. Jack Devlin

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    Brief view of the fish already on the bank and then the gillie picking it up and looking at it at the end of the fishing session and scene.
     
  7. Tim Cottage

    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

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    I posted this on another forum in response a similar post about Downton Abbey

    If you like British period drama do yourself a big favor and watch Foyles War. This is WWII era. Your local library may have it (mine did) and Netflix certainly has it.

    There are a number of trout fishing scenes throughout the series. In the first few such scenes the characters did not cast much better than those in Downton Abbey. The actor, Micheal Kitchen (Foyle) became a better caster as the show progressed through its eight year (and still counting) history. The series is acclaimed for its historical accuracy down to the smallest detail. Dramatisation of story line not withstanding.

    In one episode Foyle meets an American general in front of a sporting goods store. They realise they both fish and arrange to meet on stream. The general says be brought his new Leonard rod with him to England in the hope that he would have some time on his hands. A brief dialog follows regarding the dry fly casting qualities of the Leonard and some doubt is expressed about the old fashion (long and slow) qualities of the English rods. Foyle politely defends his rods as being capable of both wet and dry fishing subtly insinuating the limited use of the latest greatest American rods.
    Its a perfect dialog to contrast the modern American values vs the British tradition. Given the limited amount of viewers that will understand the intent of the short dialog it is a testament to the pursuit of historical accuracy not only in specific events but culture as well.

    In another episode I was able to pause the dvd and zoom in on the reel. It was a Hardy Uniqua.

    In yet another episode Foyle is at home tying flies. Again pausing and zooming, the fly appeared to be a well tied Blue Dunn tied in a style appropriate to the place and period.

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    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

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    I don't think either of the reels in Downton Abbey look like Hardy Perfects. Hardy yes but not Perfects. Of course I could be mistaken but that's my impression.

    If any one cares enough to pause and zoom we may be able to get to the bottom of this perplexing issue.

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  9. Jack Devlin

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    Pefects??? I think they came out in early 1890's but I have never seen one that old. Very wide reels. More than likely Hardy. I don't know enough about reels of that era to know what other makes were available. I would like to see those rods and reels in person. Probably came right from the castle where they did the filming.
    Jack

    PS Of course, I just ASSUMED they were Hardy Perfects and we all know what happens when we get into the ASSUMING mode.:)
    J
    PSS A collector friend called me and suggests the reels look like the Hardy Wide Perfects.
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  10. Jack Devlin

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    Being a "fan" of the wartime years in England, I also follow Foyle's War. Excellent. There are a number of fishing scenes and I recall the tying scene and the Leonard rod scene. I seem to recall one episode where a trout he caught had been poisoned/diseased from some dumping of chemicals??? Anyway, great stuff and well worth watching even without the fly fishing stuff.
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  11. Robert Engleheart

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    Following Downton Abbey is a modern crime drama, DCI Banks. I don't know why the Brits make so much better crime shows than we do, maybe because the actors are chosen for their ability and not so much looks, but to me there's a reality and "feel" to them that ours lack. Foyle's War is excellent.
     
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    And Mr. Foyle is a fly tier and fly fisherman to boot!
    Roger on the DCI Banks.
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    Fantastic show but those actors couldn't cast.
     
  14. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    And I'll bet none of us can act.

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  15. Jack Devlin

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    Tim,
    It just so happens that last nights episode of Foyles War was a repeat of the one with the Leonard rod. A good one.
    Jack
     
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