I picked this vice up from Crump in anticipation that my beloved brother would enjoy tying. Well, turns out he doesnt have the patience. I really dont need two dyna kings so this one is for sale. Its in great shape but has been used to tie flies. It could probably be cleaned, other than that its great. I dont remember how much I paid for it cause I bought a few things at the same time from Crump and the link for the original posting from crump is no longer in the classifieds. So I guess make me an offer...retail is 149.00. Here is a link to the vice http://www.dyna-king.com/flyvise_dtl.asp?itemval=15&pv=0&pid=013 EDIT: It might help if I mention that its a clamp style base. ~Patrick ><> Faith is nothing until it is everything!