I tied up some chironomids with the chartreuse and have not tried them yet but they look really good. I put Loctite superglue on them so it darkens up the color, more of a forest green with a nice sheen. I like a black and red rib. Being a UV product I am hoping they will do well in deeper water. The fibers are very twisted/curly but lay down just fine. I know they will be my new secret fly.