Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by DennisE, Apr 18, 2012.
"I don't always drink beer, but when I do.....". It's usually a pilsner.
Gee, a brain fart. I meant lupulin, not humulin, probably the result of having downed a couple of Mongoose IPAs. As noted above, IPA stands for India Pale Ale, not Imperial. Yes, Budweiser started out as a typical Czech-style pilsner, even the name (and maybe the recipe ?) was borrowed from the town of Budweis. How it ever came to include such un-beerlike ingredients as rice is anyone's guess.
Budweiser - from the start, the business was way more important than the beer. Even Adolphus Busch didn't like it.
Has anyone seen the documentary - "Beer Wars"? Anyone who enjoys beer should watch it. Fascinating story about craft beers trying to gain entry into a market that's absolutely dominated by Bud and Miller. Its available on Netflix.
It's somewhat interesting, but painfully boring.
I think the best part of it, though, was the blind taste test with all the loyal bud, miller, or coors drinkers. None of them could pick out their "preferred" brand in the taste test.
Back Deck IPA is my current favorite, 7% ABV 62 IBUs with a Citra, Simcoe, and Amarillo blend of last minute boil additions to give a rich aroma and smooth fruity bitterness
I'll second the Freemont IPA and American Breakaway....couldn't remember the names but these two are fruity aroma and balanced with slight bitterness. I have not found a good bitter since the old Ballard Bitter and Full Sails' Equinox, both long gone.
Now to go opposite what are some of the worse IPA's .....I tried Deschutes Belgian IPA....not for me, has that funky bavarian wheat type taste. Fremont 77....IPA with 4.0% ABV....nah...rule of thumb IPA should have 6.0% or higher. Fremont 77 tasted like a light wheat beer...like the old pyramid wheaton ale....good, refreshing, but not an IPA!
Too many to list. Most being from smaller batch breweries not available out of the taproom. But here are some of the more readily available ones:
Green Flash Imperial IPA: Tastes like stale onions and rotting leather
Pyramid IPA: Couldn't handle more than a few sips of this trainwreck
Sierra Nevada Ruthless Rye: Just awful (and probably one of, if not the only beer from Sierra Nevada I haven't enjoyed)
Most overrated: Pliny the Elder. It used to be great. After Russian River moved to their new brewing facility, it lost that "something" that set it apart. Now, people line up at bottle shops to get theirs, and reach past superior IPA's just to buy in to what hype is still there.
In my opinion IPAs are in the same category as novelty hot sauces.
Hah, I've said similar things before. I definitely don't dislike IPA's, I just find malt to be a far more interesting forward flavor than excessive hops.
I prefer ESBs the most. I like the balance of hop and malt that they typically provide. My favorite(s) in that category are Mad River Jamaica Sunrise ESB, Coalition Brewing Bumps Bitter, Northern Lights Crystal Bitter, and Rogue Brutal Bitter...
Now for the low alcohol IPAs, I think they have their place (if done correctly). The Two Beers ISA (India Style Ale) has most of the hop forward flavor of an IPA but under 5% alcohol. It's a great beer to drink on the river (or lake) and not get too messed up with. Just good flavor but a bit easier to drink. I also dig the Georgetown Johnny Utah IPA. It's only 4% flat (legal in Utah... hence the name) and is surprisingly good, although perhaps overly floral/citrusy in flavor. Those two in particular are just interesting to me...
Now if only more bars would start carrying a good bitter instead of 3-4 IPAs at a time (the Pub I work at has had 3 bitters on draft in the last year (we have 14 taps) and at least 50 different IPAs). Rumor is that many brewers are getting bored of the IPA craze and are beginning to brew up more ESBs and other, slightly less "hip" varieties. I hope that's the truth, as I look forward to seeing my favorite type of beer more available, and in greater variety.
Have you had Black Raven's "London Kawing?" That's the best I've had.
On the subject of Black Raven, their Wisdom Seeker is probably the best NW IPA next to Workhorse. It's just next to impossible to get your hands on it.
One of my personal favorites is Dogfish Head 90 minute IPA. Super tasty. I like the Anderson Valley too. It's funny, I only really got into IPAs a few years ago. Before that--in about 7 years of good solid drinking--I could never really enjoy them. But now it is always my first choice.
Favorite has to be Stone Brewing Ruination IPA. Sucker is quite hoppy. Ninkasi Total Dominaion IPA is another hoppy favorite that is easier to find and MUCH cheaper than Ruination. I also like their Tricerahops IPA.
I think I'll get a growler of Kulshan tonight and see how our newest brewery does it.
Go Red Sox,