Favorite winter steelhead patterns.

Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by Panhandle, Feb 10, 2011.

  1. Chris Bellows

    Chris Bellows Your Preferred WFF Poster

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    why does this argument always come up? can we disagree about methods yet still fight for fish? i for one think we can multitask enough to argue about methods and argue about ways to save our resource.

    how far do we let the kumbayya crap go? no fighting for bait bans because we gotta get along with all gear types? i'm not willing to say we should all stop fishing over declining stocks, but our behavior while doing so says a lot about us. it seems many don't like the glare of that mirror.

    this isn't just about nymph vs swing. it's about how our sport is evolving in the face of not just declining fish runs, but declining opportunities.

    back to the question. i like something big and pink... or orange... or black. whatever i feel confident in at the time gets tied on... and lately it's been the mix of different colors that's been getting the grabs (from the flybox at least).
     
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    _WW_ Fishes with Wolves

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    How's that been working out so far?
     
  3. Chris Bellows

    Chris Bellows Your Preferred WFF Poster

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    yes, we now have another reason for anadramous fish declines.... internet discussions on nymph vs. swing. it's now harvest, hatcheries, habitat, internet bulletin boards.

    the reason why sportfishermen do not all come together has a far more complex reason that disagreements over how to fish. there are legitimate disagreements over harvest and hatcheries. you can see when there is broad agreement on issues groups come together no problem (attacks on the commission, puget sound chinook plan).

    someone saying that beads under a thingamabobber isn't flyfishing has ZERO to do with declining fish stocks. i've been to a lot of public fisheries meetings, and i have never heard a nymph vs. swing argument.

    there is a large percentage of sportfishermen that just want harvestable fish, and could care less about wild fish or hatchery interactions. they put a lot of pressure on the decision makers. i for one will not join them on their crusade against wild fish restoration, and it's not because they don't swing flies.
     
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    _WW_ Fishes with Wolves

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    Are we arguing about arguing...:)
     
  5. KerryS

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    Fishermen have never been known to argue before.

    Have they?
     
  6. Panhandle

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    Especially on a fly fishing forum. The basis and purpose of a forum is info and debate. What you're complaining about, and not just you, is the nature of a forum. Its a fly fishing FORUM people!
     
  7. James Waggoner

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    "Yeah.. so keep your meat hooks off!" Just kidding...stole from the Movie "Stripes" when Francis or "Psycho" says..."And I don't like anyone touching my stuff...so if I catch any of you Homos out there touching my stuff...I'll Kill ya...so keep you meat hooks off."

    Actually that whole scene was awesome.

    "So keep your Bead hooks off" ...I know "lighten up Francis."
     
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    I always liked "Shut your damn pie-hole!"
     
  9. Jeremy Floyd

    Jeremy Floyd fly fishing my way through life

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    God I love you folks!! good read, good read..

    Some of your mother's would be so proud. :)
     
  10. bennysbuddy

    bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    It would appear thats exacty whats happening,
     
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    One of my favorites. No it isn't!
     
  12. Hal Eckert

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    Anything black and a little chartreuse has been good for me whether small or big,
    Swinging or nymphing ! There I said it have at it,
     
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    it doesnt matter if you swing or nymph for steelhead that are fakes!
     
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    What does that mean, Dustin? Not sure you have enough experience to tell the difference.
     
  15. Hal Eckert

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    I will take our many available wild fakes out here available 11 months of the year, compared to what has happened to the WA fishery which I used to visit every few years, no more. Further chartreuse and black works well in either locations. Below are wild Michigan steelhead planted from west coast in 1880s, no stocking on this river for a long time, all natural reproduction. River open all year and with an excellent wild king salmon and brown trout fishery. Spring run is just starting we are good thru May.
    You ought to try it some time.



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