Fish/Depth Finders

Discussion in 'Stillwater' started by GAT, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. LCnSac

    LCnSac John or "LC"

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    I don't like those neoprene holders. They move around or at least the old ones did. I like Bakerite's solution. FWIW, they are on sale now at Cabela's. $130
     
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    GAT Dumbfounded

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    This is what you do to keep the commercial holders in place: Velcro. I have Velcro all over my SuperCat to keep things where I put them. I attached Velcro to the side of one of my pontoons and to the side of the holder. I use the commercial grade Velcro so once the stuff sticks together, it doesn't move.

    However, whatever works for you.

    Yeah, normally Cabela's is the least expensive place to buy a FB. That's where I buy mine.
     
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    Eyejuggler Beech Nut

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    Saw some folks at Dry Falls lake with a setup like this last fall, really cool! I have a Fat Cat and I will look into the strap mount, I bet a bunch of shoe goo dots (applied and left to dry first of course) on the parts of the strap that contact the tube would help mitigate any sliding if that was an issue.
     
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    The fish finder also sits better in the clamp mount than in the commercial kind. My mount is just 2 pieces of 2x6 screwed together in an L that I made after using the cabella's mount for a day. I made it in 5 minutes before heading over to the local reservoir and haven't seen the need to change it. It holds the fish finder up more than the commercial ones, which is a bit of an advantage when launching. It is easy to adjust the clamp mount and if anyone wants a slightly used cabella's commercial mount (one time only by a little old lady) I will give you a good deal on one!
     
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    ak_powder_monkey Proud to Be Alaskan

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    you know what sucks? trying to find halibut without a finder
     
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    Here is the portable ice fishing finder pack with it's own gel-cell battery and charger for larger flat screen models with gps and lake mapping chips.

    Humminbird PTC U (406900-1) -
     
  8. LCnSac

    LCnSac John or "LC"

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    I think the most important feature for most of us is the cone degree, and that's why my little RF 35 with a 90 degree cone has been so helpful. Most of us prospect waters from shallow to deep, but fish in 25' or less. With a 120 degree cone at 12' depth you're seeing about 12' out from your transducer in any direction. With a 35 degree cone you're seeing about 3.5' in any direction. Good for structure beneath you, not so good for spotting fish to cast to.

    I have a higher end Raymarine finder on my skiff, and it's worthless for locating fish in the Delta because we fish in 12'. I have yet to graph a fish at that depth as stripers are very boat shy. People think it's odd when I throw my little green RF 35 transducer over the side to micro search a flat or promising area.
     
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    LCnSac John or "LC"

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    I have several ways to go. I have two higher end units. One is a Raymarine DS600 with a 5.7" screen and the other is a Lowrance chart plotter/finder that is currently not being used. I want two new units, I think. One would be a chart plotter/finder with an 83khz transducer that will scan up to 120 feet, 5" screen minimum, and the other a much smaller and portable unit or one that can easily be moved to the pontoon. Or I could keep the Lowrance and just get the smaller portable unit and off the Raymarine. I think I can come out even either way, or close. The Lowrance Elite looks fine for the larger unit. I would love to go bigger on the screen but 5" will probably be OK as I sit close to that one.

    I have a handheld GPS and hate it. It's just too small for these tired eyes. I use the iPhone Navionics when I have a cell signal. That's a great app for $10.
     
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    597ci HD Combo :: Marine Fishfinder :: Humminbird

    This is more inline to what I am looking at. I, like you LOC at 53 need a larger screen. these models have dual size for 83 - and 200 wide finder scan so you can move back and forth from wide view and then narrow it down if need be with a narrower view. lake plotting already has a map of most lakes and they also take the western lake maps chips for more detail. with the soft carrying case with it's own battery and charger with suction cup transducer taking it in other boats would be no problem. I know it's a lot of money but heck how much do I spend on fly rods! and all the other gear and boats and motors.

    The technology is there for anyone that might want to use it.

    I can only imagine how important it would be in the salt. my brother and his friend got caught in an all day fog and tried to come back into the jetty at Nehalem bay from salmon fishing and missed the jetty. they spent 20 minutes in the surf after losing there 21 ft. sled in the surf. three people almost died! the only thing that saved them was an incoming tide and good life jackets. they had even called the coast guard but boats were stranded everywhere so they were told they could not respond to help them back in.

    If they would have plotted with a GPS finder on how to get back they would of been ok! We use the GPS in the columbia to get to spots in the dark when traveling a few miles. we have the safe routes plotted and just follow the arrow and the old lines we always take.
     
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    LCnSac John or "LC"

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    The Lowrance claims a 120 deg cone, the HB says 60. Looks like my Raymarine is worth $300 on ebay. That's what I figured. I can easily swap dollars and not spend any more or little more and have two very functional units, one small and portable and the other a good chart plotter/finder.
     
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    With Lowrance, you need to get into the Mark X-Pro models to get the 120 degree cone.... most of the other models have 60 degree and they may also feature chartplotting but probably not 120 degrees.....if that really matters to you. Another feature worth having is LED backlighting....that feature is still not common but some of Lowrances models are switching over inthe 2013 models...... year end closeouts may be LCD....not LED....LED backlighting provide a easy to read stark black/ white display.
     
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    I guess the point is, no matter the make or model of fish/depth finder, it is a valuable tool for flyfishing stillwaters. It will help you catch more fish.
     
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    LCnSac John or "LC"

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    Now I'm totally confused, and I'm pretty sure some people here can clarify some questions. I sold my Raymarine today and will probably sell by Lowrance LMS337 combo unit I salvaged from my Montauk, so I will have plenty of funds to get two units. One, a small portable. I'm not worried about that--those are easy--and two, a new GPS/Fishfinder, and that's where the confusion starts.

    Went down to West Marine today, and he was hard pitching me a Lowrance Elite 5 combo unit for $550. That's at the top of my budget, but it seemed fine. Then I came back and started looking at the net and for whatever reason the DI combo units are cheaper than Sonar?? Here are my requirements and questions.

    Requirements
    1. Minimum 5" screen. Even thats a stretch without reading glasses for me but it works.
    2. Combo chartplotter/finder. I can get lost in a fish pond and this damn handheld GPS I have doesn't cut it. It has a lousy base map and is just too small.
    3. Built in base map with contours, and lakes would be cool! My Navionics iPhone app has those though.
    4. Internal antenna for the GPS
    5. I like EASY!

    Questions
    1. Color or B/W? I don't really care about the colors so much, but I'm told that B/W can wash out easily in the direct sun. That's pretty much what we have down here most of the year.

    2. DI or Sonar? Down Imaging is cool and seems to be cheaper in some units than Sonar, but does it serve the same purpose? I spend 85% of my time in the skiff fishing in waters 6' - 20' deep if that matters. Humminbird has a unit where you can use either. That's appealing--I guess. I would think sonar would ID fish better?

    3. Cone angle? Initially I thought a 120 deg cone would be great, but now I'm hearing that a wide cone looses a lot of detail and is better for deep water? I'd think in shallow water it would be a benefit for a greater area? I know my little SmartCast with a 90 deg cone works great in shallow water. The Lowrance unit comes with an 83/200khz dual scan, and the 83 goes to 60 deg. Didn't look much different in the simulator, but that was at 60 feet.

    4. Brand? I've had Eagle, Lowrance, Humminbird only in the SmartCast series, and Raymarine. Raymarine is nice, too complicated and overkill for my needs. I don't know what to look for other than ease of use and features. I've never been dissatisfied with any units I've had.

    Thanks, and Happy New Year!

    John