:rofl: iagree iagree Once again, she nails the crux of it. If you plan on C&R'ing, the whole point is the survivability of the trout. If you're going to eat the fish, then, that's a whole other thing. However, as ascender pointed out, summer trout don't taste good. Soft meat and muddy tasting. So, then, what's the point of fishing deep when the trout are hiding there because the surface water is too warm and oxygen depleted? Maybe it's Nature's way of telling you to "Just say, 'Noooooo!'"? As far as Kokanee are concerned, people pretty much only fish them to eat. In that case, no sin there: "Go deep and eat!" And keep posting them tactics! --Dave E.