Flourocarbon tippit

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  1. IveofIone

    IveofIone Active Member

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    Kent, I had a similar experience with an H&H 4wt DT. It simply would not load the rod and cast were just falling out of the sky. H&H says if you are not happy to send it back so I did. Last week I ordered one of their new RISE lines in a WF5. I'll see how that works and if it is an improvement over the old olive high floater. The solution to the underweight line was a GPX. If the RISE doesn't work out then another GPX or Rio WF is probably in my future.

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    Not sure exactly what you mean, other than that some knots (again, for me) worked better than others. The triple Surgeons when building your own leaders, and the overhand loop or nail knot for the butt section to fly line. I just use the fisherman's knot to the fly.

    Was that what you were getting at? If not, then I'm no help. Because that's about the extent of the knots I need.

    Oh... there's the wind knot, but I don't recommend that one. :D
     
  3. Ryan Bradfield

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    so whats the final verdict here...which Seaguar is THE best?
     
  4. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    That's EXACTLY what happened with mine. Thanks for confirming it wasn't just me.

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    On Seaguar's website they have a knot (that I hadn't seen before) for joining 2 pieces of leader that they call a Seaguar knot. It looks simple to tie & may simply be an easier way to tie a triple surgeons than I have seen. But I don't think so.
     
  6. Greg Armstrong

    Greg Armstrong OldRodsHaveMoreFun

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    So THAT's why my casts have been so crappy!!!
    I haven't been catching that many fish lately either - now I have an excuse.
    I'm going to budget for some new lines, and some of that fluorocarbon that Ive suggested - I need all the help I can get.
     
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  7. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    That's a better excuse than mine: I haven't been catching fish because I haven't had the time to go fishing!

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    I don't know. I haven't done personal tests on them yet. I just have the one that comes in the blue and yellow box. Remember, 100% fluoro, is 100% fluor. If you are sticking with Seaguar, not sure you can go wrong really. Just my thought.
     
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    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    I've been using the Seaguar Blue Label for a number of years now and have been very happy with it.
    I get the 25 yd spools for 7-$8.00 at Outdoor Emporium. Well worth it in my opinion.
    Unfortunately they don't make larger spools in the Blue Label below 10 lb test.

    I tried Berkley Vanish when it first came out. They certainly got the name correct, because the fish seemed to vanish after you hooked up.
    I round filed it after losing a number of nice fish on it due to breakage.
    SF
     
  10. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    I had the same issue with the last several brands of fluoro I bought. It seemed quite prone to breaking and when I considered the price, concluded that this fool and his money had been parted.

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    That was the one! I couldn't remember the "Vanish" part. I had real problems with knots breaking with that one.
     
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    The hook/hackle is 100%, that is the response I received when I asked them.
     
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    You're good then.

    There is one other thing (sorry), you might compare diameters. Believe it or not, 100% fluoro from brand to the next brand can be different. 4X tippet in one brand, can be bigger diameter wise (or smaller) than the next. Doesn't really make that much of a difference on bigger flies, but can if you're tying on size 16 and smaller.

    Just a thought.

    Just remember, you'll die early and come to finacial ruin if you don't use 100% fluorocarbon. That much has been proven. I read it somewhere on the interweb.

    P.S. Oh, and you won't catch any fish either.

    P.S.S. I'm bored. I need to go fishing!!! Hey, tomorrow looks good!
     
  14. BRsnow

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    I am fishing tailwaters here in CO, so my flies are typically 20-24's, so the fluoro is a big help, a 24 inch fish on a 22 midge on 5x fluoro is better odds than 7x nylon in my experience. I have used pretty much all the brands and have had good experience with all of them. If HH is the same as the rest, makes sense to pick some up. BR
     
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    NICE! And yep.

    I've only targeted fish with a size 20 once. Hooked three, had them on for about 10 seconds. As it turns out, you can't set the hook like you do a wooly bugger. Hmm, who would of thought. :D

    What's that saying again? "Raise the tip, strip the hip." I don't care WHO you are. If you're tagging fish on a size 22 on 7x ... I bow before you. :)