Fly Lines for Sea Run Cuts

Discussion in 'Saltwater' started by Zissou Intern, Dec 20, 2009.

  1. Kyle Smith

    Kyle Smith DBA BozoKlown406

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    Funny question: is there a fly fisher on Earth who doesn't own a WF6F floating line? Personally, I haven't encountered water on a PS beach deep enough that a long leader and weighted fly couldn't reach the bottom, within casting distance from shore. I'm sure the salt experts have their reasons for a clear intermediate etc, but a "floater" always seemed sufficient to me.
     
  2. NomDeTrout

    NomDeTrout Fly Guy Eat Pie

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    I've often heard that an intermediate line isn't necessary but is often use not to get your fly deeper but specifically to get your line below water.

    Reason being - when there some salad floating around as the tide comes in, its a pain to have to pull crap off your floating line every cast. With an intermediate line, the line sets just below all the salad, thus reducing the pain of cleaning your line often.

    I exclusively use WF6F, simply because I haven't had the chance to buy a spool and int line :)
     
  3. Chester Allen

    Chester Allen Fishing addict and scribbler

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    I carry three lines:
    A floater, which I use for fishing Miyawaki poppers.
    A clear intermediate, which I use most of the time. I like this line because it tracks so well -- and casts really well.
    A fast sinking line. I use this line perhaps once or twice a month, but I really need it when I use it. On some tides -- and at some spots -- the current is ferocious. You need a sinking line to get down to the ledges -- which may only be 3 feet deep -- where the fish are waiting. I also use a sinker on sunny days, which is when the cutts get a little shy. Finally, as Don Freeman said, a sinker gets down to a lot of fish when you're fishing from a boat. I never thought I needed a sinker until the day when my friend Greg Cloud used a sinker and outfished me 10 to 1 during an entire tide. A sinking line will get you into fish that you never thought were there.
     
  4. Craig Schulz

    Craig Schulz Midwest transplant, but taking root nicely....

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    I'm in agreement with Chester, 90 plus percent of the time the intermediate is on and loaded if I'm fishing poppers then the floater is on. As for cabbage you still get it there is no way around it if it is present. I too have been outfished with intermediate lines when I was using a floater. Everyone has an opinion and I really like having options!
     
  5. casaboba

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    Of the three types of lines suggested to have on-hand (floating, intermediate, quick-sinking), is there a MANUFACTURER'S BRAND or reel-loading line technique which helps to maximize casting distance when used regularly in the salt?
     
  6. hendersonbaylocal

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    Look for a RIO Outbound or Airflo 40+. Those are two popular types of integrated "shooting head" type lines made for making long casts. They are not very good all around lines, but are really nice for beach fishing. As others have said, get either a floater or maybe an intermediate. A floater is all around the most versatile. Worry about a sinker later if you feel the need to spend more money.
     
  7. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    Kyle,
    How long of a leader do you like to use on your floater with a weighted fly?
    Thanks,
    SF
     
  8. Banzai

    Banzai FFing and VWs...Bugs & Bugs

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    With a single hander, I will usually water load the cast (think switch cast). I don't use a lot of false casting as after about two my cast quality goes downhill faast.Most times though, I use a light two hander. A Cortland CL 5wt 12' spey. A TFO Deer Creek 4 wt switch is something I'd like to get this next year. Airflo 40+ and Rio Outbound are my go-to lines for the beach, fished with a 10' poly leader with a couple feet of tippet. I switch out clear floating, intermediate, and sink as conditions/flies change.
     
  9. 1morecast

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    I like an intermediate line when there is a lot of chop on the water. With the line just below the surface I get a straight connection to my fly, which means I can feel my fly better, feel any takes, get a better hook set, which results in better hookups. Versus the wind blowing my line around.
     
  10. kelvin

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    I agree and 99% of the time I use my floater

    only use my intermdiate if it is really choppy, really sunny and bright out or I know there are fish there but they are not hitting surface flies
     
  11. FlyOnTheBeach

    FlyOnTheBeach formally FlyOnThe Beach

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    These lines make beach fishing a pleasure. It cut my casting time at least in half when I switched, That means twice as long the fly is in the water. I really noticed the difference when fishing next to people that weren't using the integrated lines and just using the standard lines. It seemed like all they were doing was casting. I really can't say it enough. These lines when properly used makes it enjoyable and casting a breeze.
     
  12. nutsack angler

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    One floater I haven't seen mentioned is the sage indicator taper. That thing is nuts. Shoots like crazy and the head handles poly leaders with ease. Plus it excels on the river mending bobbers, chucking streamers, and splashing hoppers off the bank. Who said it was only for switch rods?
     
  13. salt dog

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    Whatever line you use, the best aid to casting distance is to stretch your line before casting, and use a stipping basket to hold the stretched line. On the RIO Outbound lines, optimum distance casting point is to have the entire head aerialized with 3-6 feet of the running line also outside the the top guide on the final cast, and use a lonnggg haul to power up that baby. Those 3 points will put an extra 15' onto your cast.