Fly Tiers Quiz

Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by Jack Devlin, Jan 17, 2013.

  1. Bob Newman

    Bob Newman Active Member

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    Actually Gene you asked about the Royal Coachman Trude a later derivation, it was preceded by the actual Trude fly that was tied for A.S. Trude and used on Henry's Lake.
     
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    You are correct. It's another one of the patterns that goes by a number of names. I've heard it called a Trude Caddis, the Trude,
    the Royal Trude and the Royal Coachman Trude.

    The interesting part of the story is the dog hair bit used as a joke for the wing.
     
  3. Bob Newman

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    The original Trude is really not even tied anymore, it was a streamer with a red yarn body, brown hackle, and hair from a Red Irish Setter. It was the go-to fly for the lake for many years.
     
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    That's amazing. I wish I could figure out where I read the version of the story that I did. It wasn't in the book I thought it was.
     
  5. Jack Devlin

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    THis is the story - pretty sure the correct one as I remember it being told - of the royal trude.The Trude is a down-wing dry pattern with a calftail hairwing and a heavy hackle collar. Originally, the Trude was a wet fly designed by Carter H. Harrison of Chicago, Illinois, in the summer of 1906 while he was a guest at the A.S. Trude Ranch near Big Springs, Idaho. The fly was created as a joke using red yarn from a cabin rug for the body and hair from a red spaniel for the wing. The "joke" became an instant success and created great interest in the use of hair for a wing. The fly was later adapted to a dry fly dressing by including a tail and, probably saving the family pet some fur, switching to Fox Squirrel tail for the wing.
     
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    Urine staining: There is a fly pattern called the Tups Indespensible. One of the ingredients in the dubbing mix is urine stained hair from a ram's testicles.
    Many, many, many moons ago, one of my fly tying mentors gave me a small amount of this hair. I still have it. Never used it. You can imagine how cool it was to have such a thing as a kid. Way cool! Almost as cool as the hare's mask he gave me.
    jack
     
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    The oddest material I've ran across for tying flies was the use of barn owl eye lashes. I didn't even know owls had eye lashes.

    Gin isn't too keen on my bunny faces. However, if you want to tie a genuine Gold Ribbed Hares Ear, you need the mask. The body color of a GRHE is much different when you follow the original instructions and use the mask and ear hair than the color of pattern you end up with when you use the dubbing from a package.

    I think we're off the original topic of the thread.
     
  8. Jack Devlin

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    I'd say I have probably close to 100. I have tried taking them apart to save the hooks but found out I tie a pretty durable fly. I make sure the only people who see these flies are people who know nothing at all about fly tying. They think they are great. Lots of oohs and aahs.
    Jack
     
  9. Jim Ficklin

    Jim Ficklin Genuine Montana Fossil

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    1. Does the far side of the flies you tie look as good and the same as the near side? Close, if I use a rotary vice.
    2. How many consecutive times have you stuck your finger(s) on the hook of the fly you are tying? As shaky as I am in my old age, it's an expectation with times too numerous to count . . .
    3. If you use the "sucking method" of bobbin threading, what is the longest length of thread that you have inhaled? None since I bought a bobbin-threader.

    4. what % of your tying materials have never been used more than once? -- I'd guess 5-10%; i phase this stuff out pretty quickly, but I DO still have some Herter's hooks, lol.
    5. How many flies do you have on hand, that you have tied, that you think you'll never fish with? Lessee, been tying since I was 8; I'm now pushing 65; tying is my theraputic release; my Kids don't fish; LOTS!

     
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    I don't give away my faulty flies... I only give away the best stuff... I have a reputation to keep:)

    (if the hooks start rusting... I toss the flies)
     
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    The far side usually looks better!

    3/4 pt hemoglobin. after a while volume is what matters.

    2" plus dust, hair, dubbing, feather fibers and some things I don't want to know the name of.

    >50% has never been used because I can't a. remember I already have 5 packs of whatever it is; or b. can't resist a bargain. 25% has been used once, 10% gets used some and 15% gets used alot.

    last year I left two boxes sitting on a rock in UT containing about 300 flies. then I several boxes to people who looked/acted like they'd appreciate them and I still have more flies than I can count. so I'd say several thousand.
     
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    Ya know - I don't give away my shitty flies either. I have HUNDREDS!!
    I only give away my better ones and fish with my best ones. I just feel that if I give someone my crappy flies they would probably figure it out.
     
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    I only throw flies to the side of the fish that reveals the good side of my fly. Sounds like an idea for a cartoon, Gene.
     
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    I thought this was a better question to replace #1 in the original thread:
    1. Which side of your flies looks better: the far side, the near side, or neither side.:)
    Jack