For the steelhead masters

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by Patagonguy, Mar 8, 2007.

  1. Patagonguy

    Patagonguy Active Member

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    Hey guys, here in Patagonia Argentina we have a big river with those chrome Oncorynchus Mikiss that run to the Atlantic. Fish from 6 to 25 pounds, extremelly powerful.
    The river is Rio Santa Cruz, is huge, 240 miles lenght, and 250 yards wide avergage; a new fishery discovered just a few years ago for steelheads, the water is clear and relative milky because comes from very big glacial lakes and it seems that the best flies here are big black streamers as WB's, Marabou Muddlers and Zonkers.
    Any other recommendations about how to try to catch these elusive silver torpedoes?
    Thanks in advance folks,
     
  2. Salmo_g

    Salmo_g Well-Known Member

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    The fly patterns you mention are good ones. Fly pattern doesn't matter too much with steelhead. It's the presentation of the fly that matters. Fish them on a standard wet fly swing across large pools and flats characterized by: depth of 2/3 to 2 m; velocity of 0.2 - 0.5 m/s; and a cobble/boulder substrate. Whether you should fish them off a floating line or a sinking tip line depends mainly on the water temperature.

    Good luck, and send us some photos of the river and its fish!

    Sincerely,

    Salmo g.
     
  3. Kyle Smith

    Kyle Smith DBA BozoKlown406

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    ----DISCLAIMER---- I'm not a steelhead master, but I've done both my homework and my legwork thus far.
    Anyways, I'm guessing it's probably not a good thing that there are now Atlantic steelhead. I'm sure that the steelies will hit the same stuff the searun browns do. Big dark (purple, black, wine, brown) zonkers/kiwi muddlers/buggers, flesh flies, stoneflies, egg cluster patterns, and the traditional Northwestern steelhead flies like Green Butt Skunk, Freight Train, Skykomish Sunrise, Popsicle etc. should all do the trick.
     
  4. James Mello

    James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    The basic swing is what lots of folks do out here. Not quite as effective as other methods, but it has it's own appeal. In general the slower the swing the better. Water moving around 1.5 feet per second (slow walking pace) tends to be the best holding water, near rapids (above or below)...

    Other tactics include the use of nymphs... Read up on Andy's article about steelhead nymphing strategies. It's off the main homepage, and details the use of nymphs and eggs to take steelhead....
     
  5. Jerry Metcalf

    Jerry Metcalf FishyJere

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    If you can get ahold of it, Dec Hogan's book, "A Passion for Steelhead" would be a good primer. He relates a lot of information about big river fishing that would be applicable.
     
  6. KerryS

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    I don't consider myself a steelhead master, an accomplished steelheader perhaps but I digress. Tell you what. Buy me a round trip plane ticket to Patagonia, Argentina and lodging for say a week. I will bring a couple of spey outfits, a box or two or steelhead flies with me and we can figure out how to catch your steelhead.:cool:
     
  7. Mulligan

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    I'll buy the beer :thumb:
     
  8. gt

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    time is my friend :D invite me on down, i'll bring the OP big steel flies plus some materials, you have a vice? along with the short rods, skagit lines and t14 heads. lets catch some fish and set some precidents for flies that prove themselves :cool:
     
  9. Will Atlas

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    wow, let me preface by saying that river sounds amazingly sweet. Like most folks said, I'm not a steelhead master. Considering the way you've described the river I would approach it with a spey rod for sure, a short head line, and a selection of large profile flies for that colored water. Try string leeches, large marabous, intruders etc. I think there was an article in a high profile fishing mag about fly fishing steelhead in S. America. Not sure where they were, but I'm sure you could find out. They also had some photos of some seriously sweet flies. I usually fish a Type VI sinktip on our local steelhead rivers, but I also carry a IV and an VIII. Good luck and PLEASE post pictures when you start catching them.

    Cheers,
    Will
     
  10. Patagonguy

    Patagonguy Active Member

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    KerryS, Mulligan & gt:
    Guys, will be apleasure to fish for our steelies with you. I can't invite you of course, is a little expensive for me, but just put a group of 4 together and you'll have a great discount of our regular cost. April is the best time for the rockets of the remote Rio Santa Cruz.
    About your advises, I'll try with softhackles and nymphs also. Thank you very much.
    I'll send you some picts after the experiment.
    Regards,
     
  11. g_smolt

    g_smolt Recreational User

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    For starters, go see the river when it is at its absolute lowest water-level of the year.

    Take note of all channels, depressions, bars, etc. that will be covered when the river is in runoff stage. These are the features and areas that you will be fishing when the fish are in the river, so get to know them intimately.

    THEN worry about flies and methods.

    Silhouette is king in fly selection, followed closely by color.
     
  12. Salmo_g

    Salmo_g Well-Known Member

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    If April is best, that doesn't leave us a whole lot of time for planning. What does it take to make this a happening thing? If not this year, why not next?

    Sincerely,

    Salmo g.
     
  13. Patagonguy

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    Salmo_G:
    No problem, just let me know your plans when you wish.

    Regards,
     
  14. Lostinwater

    Lostinwater New Member

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    Get in contact with our own Caddismadness( send PM), he's caught them there last year and I'm sure as hell he'll be doing it again this year (he's in Chile/Argentina right now). Damn that sounds fun :beer2: :beer2:

    Andrew
     
  15. gt

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    '08 sounds good to me, this april is a bit quick.