In fairness it has been several years since I have seen you at Orvis. Four or five years ago when I bought my first Poppers from you and you explained how to cast/strip them to me. Before that you fitted me for my first Orvis waders...2000, 2001, 2002 ? No idea. I'll be back probably this early fall...time for new waders. Had two pairs from Orvis and they are top notch in my book. Other visits to Orvis you were absent.