FYI: Boat-ban suggested for Klickitat, Hoh, other rivers

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by Dan Nelson, Jul 13, 2012.

  1. Chris Bellows

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    Having rivers only open for a few days a week is the dumbest thing I've heard. It would create a gold rush mentality much like the halibut fishery on the North Coast. If you enjoy limited fishing on even more crowded streams it would be a dream.

    The halibut fishery is not a model we should be following.

    And this thread lasted a long time before the inevitable "nymph vs. swing" crap surfaced. It is too bad because it diminishes the real issues.
     
  2. nutsack angler

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    Agreed Chris - especially considering most folks are out to C & R and aren't heading to the ramp after their limit, there is none.

    Reg changes like these may not solve much but they are a start. What fascinates me is how separated the steelhead fishing community is on the issues we all want the same results from. The WSC probably lost a bunch of support from this and I think it is a good wake up call for them.
     
  3. Chris Bellows

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    It seems like fish conservation groups walk a tight rope between what's best for the fish and losing members and support. I thInk if you actually read their proposals and their reasoning people might view these regs differently.

    The separation is natural. While we are all allies in the abstract, realities such as harvest, hatcheries, bait fishIng, barbless hooks, etc do separate us.
     
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    The Deschutes river has the same rule and you need a boaters pass to float the river. Seems like that river is doing alright. Jet boats can't run up and down the river every day either. Why would it be a bad idea for some washington rivers? Washington has plenty of water for everyone to fish, it's the lazy fisherman that annoy me.
     
  5. Derek Day

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    Some people want to rearrange the deck chairs.

    So said the newly appointed Puget Sound Partnership Director, of broader Puget Sound recovery, but very apt.
     
  6. Chris Johnson

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    The proposers of these rule changes have the best interest of the fish at heart I believe, which is something I've been advocating for years. I applaud their work and hope it continues. I like the idea of the Skagit being a wild Steelhead management zone and the selective gear rules and catch and release for trout on all P.S. rivers, as well as the mandatory hatchery retention. The O.P. rivers are the last best hope for wild Steelhead in the state and we need to protect them before it's too late, no matter how we choose to fish for them.
     
  7. Davy

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    yeah.\,, what he said :)
     
  8. Ryan Nathe

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    How does guide licensing work in this state?
     
  9. Evan Burck

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    It's like buying a fishing license.
     
  10. Ryan Nathe

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    Thats what I thought, thanks for the confirmation.
     
  11. David Bowerman

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    Like what bkerbs said above, the Deschutes limits the number of boats on the water and you can only fish from the bank. It's a gorgeous fishery and a very clean river -- at least the sections I've fished. Seems like a good compromise to me.
     
  12. Rob Allen

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    fished the Klick this weekend,,, if was running clear and more crowded than I have ever seen it... looked like the Wilson in January...
     
  13. Bob Triggs

    Bob Triggs Stop Killing Wild Steelhead!

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    Maybe we should close it; just stop fishing for Wild Steelhead entirely, Close all of the rivers and let them recover for a few decades, Concentrate on restoration of habitats and water quality, Emphasis on enforcement. Have a nice boat ride!
     
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    Bob, not sure if you are being serious or not. Some of the previous 6 pages includes examples of rivers that have been closed for sometimes 10 or more years without any significant increase in the population. So there is no guarantee that merely closing rivers indefinitely will cause the recovery we are looking for and probably won't have the desired effect we want. In the meantime, anglers begin to lose faith in closed rivers and often anglers are the ones safeguarding the river and looking out for its best interest. Also, if you take away the lowest impact to the resource without addressing the larger impacts, your net gain is negligible and you simply just lost recreational opportunity without any of the benefits it does have. While simply closing rivers seems like a logical choice and you can make the argument that you have to start somewhere, there are many better options available to us than just closing down the river completely.
     
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    Yes like reducing our impacts (boat ban). Too bad soo many people are so stubborn about not losing their rights to fish however they please that they would rather just destroy the resource completely than give just a little so we all can continue to enjoy it.
     
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