Pattern General Practitioner- some examples

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  1. Davy

    Davy Active Member

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    Someone asked about a Black GP, these are traditional examples from Finland,, the doubles tyed by Tatuu kirjoitti. I thought they were extraordinary;
     

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    Beautiful looking flies but a couple of questions:

    1) on the version in the lower right corner of the first picture, what technique is used to flair the tail like that? (I've been trying to figure that out for a different fly.)

    2) maybe I'm not seeing the flies clearly enough, but I thought the GP was supposed to have a V-cut golden pheasant tippet veiled by two breast feather tied in halfway up the shank? That part of the tie has always given me fits. I think it's a much easier tie to leave that center feather combo out.

    Anyway, they are beautiful. Wish mine looked that good.
     
  3. Davy

    Davy Active Member

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    It is just one or two golden pheasant breast feathers collared an butted up against the tag tinsel and tippet tail, it's hard to tell but there may be a small dubbing ball there as well. Another thing you can do is a few turns of stiff rooster neck hack before the turns of GP, this will help support it. From talking with my friends over there, of the two versions shown here , one is for the slower salmon pools and the other more swifter water(the flaired example).

    Yup,, the original dressing call for it to be tyed in two steps - i.e.; the rear body and forward body. The rear body sported the Vee'd and cemented GP tippet over which were two or three GP breast feathers. Followed by the same forward body with palmered hackle topped with 3 or 4 xlarge GP breasts, extending into the tippet twisting large bucktail tails .

    This is how I still dress the fly but it can certainly be omitted for speed .The tippet can still be added in the middle in one piece construction. Just before you begin dubbing and finishing the body make a few turns with the tinsel to figure where it will wrap thru, then tie in your tippet piece.

    The trick in the traditional dressing was to match up the rib and the hackle taper the best one could.

    And cement and wrap back the wing stems as you tie them in, or they will pull out .

    enjoy
     
  4. Nooksack Mac

    Nooksack Mac Active Member

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    "Eyes" of golden pheasant tippet are the defining characteristic of General Practitioners. However, there are other prawn patterns, simple to complex, that use black metal bead chain or black plastic chain eyes, which are very simple to use.
     
  5. Tim Cottage

    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

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    Davey

    Thanks for the images of the GP's. The fast water/slow water versions are especially nice but I can't tell from the photo whether they are tied with the traditional mid body tie-in point for the eyes and rear breast feathers, or if it is all tied in at the head.

    Please do me a favor and lift the skirts on those little beauties and tell us what you see.

    Thanks
    TC
     
  6. Davy

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    Tim- I don't have the flies in my possession, I asked the dresser and they are all tyed from the head-- easier.
     
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    I was the guy that was asking about the Black GP, I found a few recipes and gave it a shot, here is the result:


    I didnt have any spey hackle, so I used saddle hackles, so, I wasnt too happy with the hackle, but, I think it might entice a couple of fish :)

    Dean

    View attachment 4422
     
  8. Jeff Hale

    Jeff Hale B.I.G.F.F.

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    Hell, if I was a 20 lb steelhead, I'd eat that thing for sure! Nice looking fly, bro. Now go fish it! Jeff
     
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    Thanks SuperFly!

    I plan on doing just that very soon.....
     
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    Very nice,Dean, nuthin wrong with it at all. just report back on how big the guy that eats it was
     
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    papafsh Piscatorial predilection

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    If it don't catch 'em, we might as well take up golf :eek:

    LB
     
  12. Ringlee

    Ringlee Doesn't care how you fish Moderator

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    Here are a couple big ones to look at. I will tie a couple black ones this big and put them on here as well.
    Enjoy,
    Chris
     
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    YUM!
     
  14. Willie Bodger

    Willie Bodger Still, nothing clever to say...

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    So, I see that in the photo of the black GP, the GP tippets are still used, so is the thought that it is still imitating a shrimp? I like the idea of the black GP, I've got some materials to tie up some nice ones (well, as nice as my paltry skills can muster), but I'm trying to determine the efficacy of the tippet 'eyes' on the black version. Any thoughts? Or perhaps I am overthinking the whole thing?

    Willie
     
  15. BertBrehm

    BertBrehm Two hands, baby.

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    G.P. -- General Practitioner now, but originally named for Golden Pheasant

    -- Lt Colonel Esmond Drury