I got out fishing for two days at the NF of the Cda earlier this week so I'm unlikely to chime in on HOG, hatchery/native steelhead or whatever that other controversial thread was. Some fish bit, very few fish were hooked, a fat angler stumbled in the creek(s), no fly rods were broke and campers were rained on. All in all a good time was had. Oh yeah, no trucks broke down this trip either. Senior Pass kicked in and campsites were $9 per day for fat, senior anglers.