Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by KerryS, Oct 23, 2009.
Marlow Bumpus, George Cook, Mike McCune, Scott O'Donnell
Sharp steelie aka clay sharp
Great thread! and IMO...
I think people would be appreciated if you can provide the reason you think those people has significant contribution to the NW two handed casting, just as Kerry stated in the very beginning. This will not only give us more knowledge about the history in the PNW and also let people recognize their achievement that not known by the outsiders (like me).
My reasons for all the people mentioned so far, except Clay, are that they are total badasses. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
2 big contributions from John Farrar IMHO are (1) co-creating snap-T and (2) while not spey casting specific the use of marabou for steelhead flies. He pushed the envelope of how and with what we fish.
Any steelheaders in the hall of fame without cool sounding names? :clown:
The late Mike Maxwell pretty much started it all .
My vote goes to the Goodwill Ambassodor of Spey Casting - Poppy at the Red Shed. He has probably helped to get a lot of people into the sprort of Spey Casting. And he has a cool name..
First on the list would be Jimmy Green. Jimmy brought the 2 handed rod to the PNW around 1983 if I recall correctly. He didn't fish it well at the time because he couldn't be persuaded that steelhead didn't like 130' out on Sauk Bar. But he promoted the use of 2 handed rods for PNW steelhead fishing, not just for distance, but for line control and presentation. Which leads me to . . .
Second on the list would be Bob Strobel and Harry Lemire. But for these three people, no one else listed in this thread so far, minus Maxwell, but he was in BC, would have fished 2 handed rods for PNW steelhead because there would not have been any two handed rods made by the PNW premier rod companies. It was Jimmy's rod design experiments, and Bob's and Harry's field trials that led to the development of the Sage 9140-4, the first really functional PNW Spey rod in the late 1980s. I had one of Jimmy's numerous prototypes; they were all 16' long and real thundersticks. Harry obtained the second two handed fly rod I ever saw, a 12' Leonard bamboo, which he uncased one day on the Sky, and had no idea how to go about using it. That didn't last long. After the 9140-4 took off, so did PNW Spey fishing as Farrar, Ward, Hogan, Kinney, O'Donnel, and the rest eagerly climbed aboard the Spey train.
An honorable mention ought to go to Eric Maisonpierre, who showed Strobel and I the first two handed fly rod either of us had ever seen, a Sharps bamboo, on the NF Stilly in 1976. Eric knew how to handle that rod, but didn't understand the Stilly. After plying Bob with a bottomless bottle of wine that day, everything the Stilly had belonged to Eric. He was a skilled angler, who soon departed for bigger fish, litterally, in BC's north country.
Another honorable mention goes to Fenwick rod company which made a 12' 10 wt two handed rod that sold slightly in the UK and almost not at all in the US. I know of one angler who owned one, Eric mentioned above. This was before Sage began making two handed rods at Jimmy's behest and design.
There are undoubtedly more pertinent details useful to your 2-hander hall of fame, but that's all I can remember at the moment.
hey _G, didn't Goran Andersson turn Jimmy Green on to the DH about that time on a visit to Sage?
There were a couple of Portland area anglers (not guides) that started toying around with the long rod just a bit before the development of the orginal 9140. One in particular came up with a solution (no doubt he wasn't the first but the name has stuck) to fishing under the Alders on the Deschutes with the single hander. Poke it out there and then roll cast. When first learning to use a two hander he tried the same tactic to fix a bad cast. One thing led to another and now there is an entire style of two handed casting based off of a blown cast.
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I don't doubt an Andersson-Green connection, but I don't know about it. Jimmy knew most of the leading edge developers in rod design, which is a world I've never been a part of.
Yeah, common ideas often evolve in different places around the same time. I see I left Al Buhr off the list, and Al was a friend of Jimmy's and was another early experimenter who helped develop some of the rod models. I'm not sure if he was involved in the development of the 9140-4 or not however.
Was that Perry? I've heard that story a couple times and versions. Soon this will be the stuff of myth and legend.