Ok, so I really love leech patterns with this sort of shaggy/buggy dubbed look to them. The Hale Bopp/Mohair patterns are some of my favorite stillwater searching patterns. Since I've gotten back into tying lately I've been trying like hell to copy a favorite store bought pattern. I've had some success, with each attempt getting better and better, but I'm still not able to get the dubbed body to have the super shaggy/buggy/hairy look that I love. So here is an attempt to post a picture of my tie first, then a couple examples of the body look I'm shooting for, and am hoping maybe someone could give me a pointer or two that may help me achieve the look. I'm using Larva Lace Morhair Plus dubbing, but I have experimented with several others including semi seal but haven't really been able to change the results. I dub the body with a loop, and then go over it with a velcro dubbing brush afterwards. I've tried using less dubbing, more dubbing, spinning it tighter, spinning it looser etc. The one thing that seems to work somewhat is to apply dubbing to my waxed loop and spin it up pretty tight to get a good tight base, then sorta apply some more dubbing loosely and spin it just a bit so it's not as tight as the stuff underneath. This helps the shagginess to a degree, but often just ends up coming off and making a mess. So.... anyone have any suggestions? Is there something I'm missing? Or is this just gonna be a matter of practice, practice, practice? I'm thinking about maybe trying to dub a tight underbody to the hook shank first, and then go back and dub a looser outer body over the top as my next attempt. First pic is mine, the others are just general examples of the level of bugginess I'd like to achieve with my bodies. Thanks for any tips!