Help A newbie Please !

Discussion in 'Stillwater' started by flyrookie, Apr 5, 2009.

  1. flyrookie

    flyrookie New Member

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    You have a good day now ...:thumb:
     
  2. ceviche

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    Hey flyrookie,

    You really should recognize that you are a spin-fisher visiting a fly fishing site. People who fish with the fly--to a very large degree--are very conservation oriented. We adhere to the Catch and Release ethic when it comes to any fishery that has a wild and self-sustaining population of trout. As it is, most of the lures that gear anglers use tend to have barbs on their multiple-pronged hooks. Such lures, as well as the use of bait (deeply swallowed hooks), significantly increases the death-rate of caught fish--even if you release them. This is much of the source of the scorn that fly anglers have towards those who use gear and bait to catch fish. We crimp barbs, because it does improve the survival rate--for as much as we can manage. Some of our hooks are so tiny that the damage draws far less blood than our last visit to the dentist for a gum cleaning. We love it when it works that way.

    To be honest, I did giggle a bit when Jim Speaker ranked on you. Fishing in Washington State is like struggling to be a musician in New York City: The pickings are slim between a lot of competition, and you better have game if you want some action. At the same time, if you come in with the wrong attitude, the wrong game, or otherwise wearing a big target on your forehead or back, you best be sure to look yourself in the mirror to see where the slings and bows of outrageous fortune landed on you.

    So, did you ever stop to read that door labeled "Washington Fly Fishing" before you entered? Sure, one might expect to know the difference between the men's or the women's restrooms, but often people just rush in. Maybe next time you will check your rig before entering.

    When this is all said and done, I would hope you might take up a fly rod and enjoy a sport as unproductive (just joking!) and as beautiful (definitely not joking) as the sport of soccer. Actually, in a way, fly fishing can be compared to boxing, as most of those who do each of these sports will agree that what they do is called, "The Beautiful Science." :thumb:

    Tight Lines!
    --Dave E.

    BTW, the Beardslee trout in Lake Crescent are unique to that lake. Sadly, they have also been horribly abused. Sure, you could try your best against some of the biggest trout that this state has to offer, but you might want to think twice. There are accounts of a creature that has spun boats on a dime and scaring the holy crap out of the hapless angler working that lake. I'm dead serious. You can Google the web for that story. Dude swore he'd never go back there again. I'm only doing you a favor by warning you.
     
  3. flyrookie

    flyrookie New Member

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    If what your saying is that i haven't earned the right to be called a Fly fisherman because i don't carry the rod so be it the title is not my concerns here...I guess that would be my mistake for titling myself one..I repsect all that you say,I respect all fish I catch not just Washington trout,They all get the same treatment with total care to live and fight another day.. I pay attention to the regs & understand where your coming from and would totally share your concern for this Hybrids...

    Where I fish In california we have the same concerns and issues ,it's all about an anglers attitude weather it's Breadsley Trout or endangered California White Sea Bass..I would hope were all here as anglers try to conserve and protect what we love to do ...I am not trying to step on anyones toes or poach anybodies honey holes just trying to fish and maybe get some leads on differant areas for a new experience..I now am aware that Fly fishing is more of a purest form of fishing like an art form, but RESPECT is what matters in the end..We all have line ..we all have reels..we all use some type of bait and lures..We all want to bring the fish to the shore..We all want to release them to fight another day...

    P.S. We are fishing from the shore so i doubt they'll be spinning us around there...We are there just to catch a few not catch the lake record...But appreciate your concerns and we not really scared of the loch mess monster !

    Thank you for your Info...
     
  4. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    :rofl: Off topic but funny as hell...thanks for the laugh ceviche!
    How many here have actually had to piss so bad you just rushed in? Finding no urinals...whoops. How many have been staning there, large public restroom holding your junk doing your business and in walks a confused lady who missed the suit vs skirt sign?:rofl:
     
  5. Troutrageous

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    Jim,
    I'll admit that my own response wasn't the most tactful either, I just felt like you could probably convince him to take care and fish responsibly with a little explanation, rather than just piss him off. No offense intended.


    Mumbles,
    I once found myself in the stall of a women's restroom in an airport, I'd been in such a rush after the flight that I went in the wrong one. Of course I didn't bump into anyone on the way in so as to recognize my mistake in time, it had to be on the way out...
     
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    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Remaining off topic, but considering this funny:

    Ha, in an airport once a chick stepped into the next urinal stall and quitely said "If I stand here a second then leave, will anyone notice I came into the wrong bathroom". I responded "I have no idea" and then she was gone. Potential opportunity lost? No idea.
     
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    Mumbles are we starting to see that you like to hang out in restrooms???
     
  8. Trent

    Trent Ugly member

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    If you are in a drunken stupor and find youself in the restroom without urnials, don't demand in a load vioce "where are the urnials at?!!!". Hmmmm, the lessons of the past.
     
  9. Ed Call

    Ed Call Mumbling Moderator Staff Member

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    Bar of said airport 3 hours, conversations with the ladies ZERO. Two trips to the restroom, total time maybe 3 minutes, conversation with ladies ONE. From back in my bar days that told me I might want to rethink my strategy of bars...but hanging in bathrooms is not my thing. Take care of that business of recycling the dark beer into light beer and get out of there for more beer.
     
  10. Jim Speaker

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    It's no problem Troutrageous. As I told someone else in a p.m., I don't even have an issue with you calling me a dick on this thread - it's what I was doing - intentionally. Reading and re-reading the first post just creates this ??? what ??? reaction in me due to this mixture of name "flyrookie" stating that he's learning to flyfish but possesses no flyfishing gear etc etc. I'm not worried about him catching a beardsley, it would be an effin miracle. I've just noticed a bit of influx of weird posts incoming - the board has grown and is growing - and a smackdown seemed necessary, much as a dick as I had to be about it.

    flyrookie: I appreciate what you're saying about C&R - good. Helpful hint: introduce yourself and get to know the community a little before stomping in asking for info on something that many hold dear to them and are therefore protective of. This is not a fly-by-night flyfishing forum this is a community of (mostly) NW flyfishers that love the tradition and our region deeply.

    Cheers all.
     
  11. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    There's a LOT more to being a flyfisherman than tying a fly on the end of a line. If you disagree, I'd like to be there to watch you when you try to cast the long rod for the first time.

    Step back and consider how much different the mechanics of flycasting is from spin- or bait-casting and you might begin to get a glimpse of why your presence here has been welcomed with a lot less than open arms.

    'Flyfishing' aside, this is an online forum and NOBODY with even a gram of sense is gonna answer your questions in public. You'll need to earn a LOT of respect before anyone here is gonna open up to you about Crescent Lake.

    K
     
  12. sportsman

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    Jim, we've never met, but I like your shit a LOT! He wasn't exactly asking on tips on how to fish the 'Snake' or Greenlake[ the other 2 endangered Trophy Lakes:rofl: in this state]!!
     
  13. Daryle Holmstrom

    Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    All right guys we haven't had a whinny pee hole match for awhile. LOL