Hooks

Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by mr trout, Dec 16, 2005.

  1. Zen Piscator

    Zen Piscator Supporting wild steelhead, gravel to gravel.

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    I have had the point roll on daiichi hooks every once in a while, but nothing compared to mustad or tiemco, they are also easy to sharpen and strong. For steelhead almost all I use, i got mustad for bulls and trout when landed a fish isnt so shockingly important and saving cash is.

    Peace,
    Andy
     
  2. IveofIone

    IveofIone Active Member

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    Am I the only one tying on MFC hooks? I have been using these for several years and have gradually replaced all of my Mustad and Tiemco with them except my favorite 3906Bs. I have experienced no quality issues with them, they are sharp and well finished and reasonably priced. Since a drive to a fly shop is a 200 mile round trip I get them through mail order from Montana with no tax and no shipping charges. You can check out their product line at www.montanafly.com. Good hooks at good prices with next day service-just what I'm looking for up here in the outback!. Ive
     
  3. Griswald

    Griswald a.k.a. Griswald

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    Ok Ive,
    I am sure to look like a dork, but I don't know how to order? It seems like they only sell to Retailers? How do you get access to the prices?

    Sorry for the silly questions.
    Matthew
     
  4. Don Johnson

    Don Johnson Duke of Furl

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    floydiology:
    First off, calling Daiichi a good "entry level hook" is a bit much, in my opinion. Most entry level tiers I have ever worked with exhibited a high degree of frugality when they were first getting started. Mustad hooks were usually their first choice because after assessing price and quality it was obvious there was a lot of bang for the buck with a Mustad iron. They could get a couple different styles or sizes for about the same price as one box of some of the more expensive brands (Gammy, Tiemco, Daiichi). But to compare the level of quality of finish (closed eyes, bronzing, etc.), sharpness, tempering and price of the venerable old Mustads to a Daiichi and insinuate they are in the same league is a bit ridiculous.

    Hywel, if the following isn't lip service then I guess I need to re-evaluate my understanding of the English language.

    "caveat:
    I am a signature umpqua tier, but I dont always use tiemco hooks in my boxes. My new patterns in production for UFM are in fact using a combination of Mustad and tiemco hooks."
     
  5. Willie Bodger

    Willie Bodger Still, nothing clever to say...

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    I agree that it depends on the application. I found a hook that I really like the salt, the Gammy Bonefish. Good strong sharp small barb and penetrates well. I also use the Dai Riki a lot for the salt. Who makes the Orvis hooks? I like some of their style and haven't had issues with their hooks.

    Willie
     
  6. Smalma

    Smalma Active Member

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    The bulk of the my trout flies are tied on Mustad hooks.

    Nearly all my sea-run cutthroat flies are tied on Mustad 3399 As - one of the cheapest hooks avaiable. With my cutthroat flies if I have lots of time or $$ invested in the fly I find that I don't fish them as aggresively as I should (in and among the snags). Because sea-run spiders are such good salmon flies I have caught lots of salmon on them as well without problems of the hook straighting.

    For small dries I really like Orvis big eyes - more for easy of attaching my leader than the quality of the hook - a concession to my advancing years.

    For bulls/steelhead/saltwater coho my go to hook has been the Diaichi 2451 - an excellent fishing hook.

    Tight lines
    Curt
     
  7. IveofIone

    IveofIone Active Member

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    Matthew, Sorry for the oversight. I order them through the Kingfisher Fly Shop, they have pictures and prices on line. Pm me if you need more info. Ive
     
  8. Anil

    Anil Active Member

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    Being the sportsman that I am, I fish strictly with tube flies. I mean strictly with tubes and no hook. I simply tie a bulky series of overhand knots in my leader behind my tube. If a fish ‘believes’ that my fly is food with enough certainty, it will not let go of the fly and can be landed quite easily. This technique also facilitates easy release and causes little or no damage to the mouth of a fish.
    Someday you may elevate your fishing and tying to this level too.
    Anil
    www.pugetsoundflyco.com
     
  9. g_smolt

    g_smolt Recreational User

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    I used to have a few different hook makes of similar styles, toying around with (mostly) Mustad and Tiemco, with a few Daiichi's and Gami's thrown in for good measure. Now, all of the Mustad went to the "garage sale bin".

    I had a bad run of luck (or just a bad run of hooks) this fall with Mustad 34007's... I broke AT LEAST 10 out of a single box of 50 while silver fishin'.

    So, I switched to the Tiemco 811S.

    About 2.5X more cost...but after watching a couple of 16-20lb Coho slide back into the depths when the hooks broke at the bend, I decided to fork over the extra $5.

    IMHO, and YMMV.
     
  10. Drag-Free Drift

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    Started tying flies about 35 years ago when Mustad and Eagle Claw were just about the only widely available choices. The old timer from whom I learned got me started with Mustads, but warned me from the start to wrap a few turns of thread next to the eye to close the gap and to always carry a file.

    I've followed his advice on both points, using Mustads for 95% of my fishing. They have served me well over the years and I've had no major issues with them.

    Some of the other brands I've tried do seem sharper out of the box, but in my humble opinion this quality alone does not justify the significant price difference. That's why I carry and use a file. Mustads hooks have been reliable fishing tools for me, and the price has remained very reasonable, especially when one buys them in boxes of 100. "If it ain't broke, don't' fix it."

    --Roy