It is possible (probable) that the Puget Sound/Salish Sea is very sick and dying. Certainly the EPA Super Fund sites etc are worrisome. Agree with you Curt fish managers must make a decision if hatcheries are worth the cost for the small recreational fishery they provide. That fishery is small and shrinking further. The only long term sustainable recreational fishery is a wild fishery, how we get there (IF we can get there) is up to us.