How much lass crowded is the penisula vs the S rivers?

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  1. Jamie Wilson

    Jamie Wilson Active Member

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    I have not fished in Oregon for steelhead. Have in Washington for a long time. My feeling - with zero solid evidence - is that the westside fishing in Oregon is waaaaay better than in Wa. I could be wrong but I don't believe so.
    Puget Sound fishing has become difficult at best - and it is very sad!
     
  2. skyrise

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    checking the hatchery returns shows the Tokul creek numbers are much higher than the sky,stilly or skagit.
    course thats for hatchery brats.
    Fred, how is the fishing been down your way?
     
  3. daveypetey

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    I guess my question is why netting is allowed here in WA?
     
  4. Jamie Wilson

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    Whole nother story
     
  5. Beachmen

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    i much rather fish the OP. there are mot as many people and lots of rivers to hit. also i have flies that have been very productive on the Op if you would like to see them. they are swing flies.
     
  6. Cruik

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    They're really not all that much higher if at all. If you're looking at the weekly hatchery returns on the WDFW website, those numbers don't actually reflect how many brats are in the river. I feel like a Reiter, Fortson, or Cascade bound fish has a higher likelihood of never making it up into the ponds. For instance, on the sky, when Hogarty Creek is low or they've shut the gate, the fish stack up and those Reiter guys are pretty efficient at hitting 'em. Tokul fish are pretty likely to just shoot up the creek. I could be wrong, though. If there was harvest data available newer than 2003, one could probably add the harvest numbers to hatchery on hand numbers to get the true hatchery escapement.
     
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    Cruik, you could be right. the Skagit fish have much farther to go.
    though in the sno there is more slower water, hence the shoot right thru. not to mention the water gets dirty much quicker. still numbers are numbers.
    right, guide boats on the sky. duh!
     
  8. PfleugerPhister

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    When I fish the S rivers, I usually end up getting interrupted having my midday riverside wank. When on the coast, I can usually bring myself to the edge several times before seeing a boat or other angler
     
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    Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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  12. JesseC

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    OP rivers are a shit show on the landing zones. Have you ever been skiing? Have you noticed how the bunny slopes are an absolute mucus f*ck fest? It looks like they smeared peanut butter on the snow and let loose an amry of orangutans right? Well, the OP is similar. Although, if you're hard core you don't even call it the OP - it's the pen.... maaaaan. (no waders in the thriftymart either)

    But the more you hike, the more you bust your waders, the fewer people you find. Most of the most gorgeous storybook, old lady jaw dropping runs, (you know the ones you'll see in a thomas kincaid calendar) i've found have been within three miles of a nice hike.
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    Buy a good head lamp. Buy a decent map. Start hiking.

    If you pull up to a put-in and there's 20 rigs in the parking lot - and you're not missing $500 - then you're probably in the wrong place. Try hiring a guide that goes against the grain (Jim Kerr comes to mind) that'll show you how and why you'll catch fish when fishing where other people don't.

    Pretty sure it's marginally the same on the sky and snoq.
     
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    During the week, usually in the spring (Feb/Mar) I dont see the pressure that you would normally see on a weekend.
    Even when I have seen pressure on the peninsula rivers, it doesnt even come close to what we see on a couple of the rivers that have steelhead runs within a couple hours of Vancouver.
     
  14. Evan Burck

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    The Vedder gives "shit show" a whole new definition.
     
  15. golfman65

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    Vedder is the great gear river...there is a rhythem to the cast and step in a long line up of guys...just about everyone knows and uses real floats..pins are everywhere...kind of like an op bobber and bead fest!!!
    Difference is the Mighty V does get fish...