Some interesting claims made in this clip. I know there are a lot of varying opinions of how wolf management has impacted various regions, and I am curious as to what others think about this.
Sorry to get out the plunger and bring up old s#%t. I hadn't seen that previous thread on this. I was mostly curious if anyone had real facts on the grand claims made I that video.Well, it's been a few months. About time we have another wolf thread
Hang on! Here we go again!
Ah, come on Trapper, you don't want to miss the every other month wolf fight... it's now a tradition at this placeNot me Gene. I'm staying out of this one.
Trapper
Sad but likely true. P.S. Walmart scares the hell outta me.It's not like there was once a 'climax ecosystem' where the 'natural order' of nature was static. It has always been a churning mass of change...new experiments by nature to see what survives.
The planet, and 'nature' will do quite fine (up to supernova anyway), though of mankind, perhaps the same won't be said...if anyone remains to do the 'saying'. It's highly possible we're merely a 'dead-end' and not suited for long-term survival. A brief visit to Walmart strongly supports such a view.
And? Let's see. Wolves live naturally in the mountains. Government allows people to graze their sheep on same land in the mountains. Wolves kill sheep. Don't see the problem. Either get a better sheepherder or get the sheep out of the mountains. Same goes for the bears and mountain lions. Should we get rid of all of the predators because they are doing what they are supposed to do in their natural territory? I for one get a little bummed out when I am out in the mountains and I see a heard of cows coming out of the trees, overgrazing and trampling the stream banks. Just last weekend I was over at Many Glacier in Glacier National Park and a herd of cows was down at the river below Sherborne Lake. Now, have a grizzly come out and kill one of those cows and the rancher is going to go crying to the public about why the grizzly should be eliminated. We encroach on their territory and then complain about their presence. If I go hiking in bear country and get killed by a bear, then it is what it is. I am accountable for my choices. Same for people who graze their animals in the wilderness.But the other wild animals don't kill like the wolves do. The wolves kill sheep for the fun of it.. They've been known to just go through the sheep like a buzz saw through wood.