Hunting tent suggestions..

Discussion in 'Camping, Hiking, Cooking' started by Kyle Escamilla, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. Trapper Badovinac

    Trapper Badovinac Author, Writer, Photographer

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    I bought the angle kit and then cut the EMT.
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    This is a 12'x14' set up. Many people will only put a center rafter in for that length, but I set this up where it snows a lot and that extra rafter keeps the tent from sagging under the snow load.

    When you set up or tear down the tent, the easiest way to do it is to set up the frame minus the legs on one wall like in the photo. It makes it MUCH easier to then just pull the one side of the tent over the top because it's so much lower. Then set those last legs for the wall. If you save tuna fish cans, you can put them under the legs so they don't eat holes in your sod cloth.

    A piece of plastic over the top does work for a rain fly, but I found that if you use a clear or light colored plastic, it lets more light into the tent rather than black or even the blue tarps.

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    Trapper Badovinac Author, Writer, Photographer

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    That's an ideal set up for five guys - 2 tents with a covered area in between. I like a wall tent better than a tent trailer because I can set up my wood stove for heat and my stoves for the kitchen. Plus you can stand up in it and hang clothes to dry in it.

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    This must be the season for researching and buying wall tents.

    On another forum I answered a few questions about cooking in a wall tent. I thought some folks here might find it interesting if they haven't done it.

    Q: What exactly do you mean by "wall tent"?
    A: A wall tent is a tent normally made of treated canvas. They come in various sizes. Some have windows. But they all basically look like this:
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    Q: Do you have one tent that stands alone as the kitchen?
    A: For the commercial outfitters I work for, yes. We have a separate tent just for the kitchen and mess (eating area).

    Q: My stove came with a warning to not use it indoors. Isn't it health hazard to cook with propane inside a wall tent?
    A: First, wall tents are not anywhere near air tight like your home. But, be smart about it. Get a longer hose and put the tank outside the tent. After you hook the stove to the tank, take a spray bottle with some water and soap in it and spray for leaks around all connections including around the valves on the stove.

    Second, I've cooked this way for a very long time with no accidents, but I know one lady who got a medevac helicopter ride out of a wilderness from a propane accident. So be careful and do your homework about propane.

    Q: Doesn't canvas leak?
    A: Canvas tents will indeed leak if not cared for. We spray the canvas with a water repellent, especially the seams. We also put a rain fly over the tent to create an extra layer of protection.

    Q: Doesn't it get very cold during the fall or winter?
    A: While there is virtually zero insulation in a tent, we are able to burn wood in a wood stove (shown in photo with two buckets on it). It keeps it surprisingly warm.
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    I've been in a wall tent when it was -25 F outside and it was +65 F inside.

    Q: What do you use for a frame?
    A: Three different methods.
    One. Cut and build two "A's" for each gable end. Cut a long ridge and run it through the inside ridge of the tent and into the notch of the A's. Run another long pole on each side for the hip. You'll tie the top of the walls to this pole.
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    Two. Cut, trim, and build an internal frame out of existing wood. This is normally only done for camps that get used over and over every year and the frame is then laid down after camp is broken down and the canvas is packed out.
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    Three. Build your own internal frame from EMT (used for electrical conduit). You can buy the angle kits and then just cut the EMT to fit your tent. This photo shows one for a 12'x14' wall tent. I added an extra rafter because it's often used in areas where we get a lot of heavy wet snow and it handles the load better than just one rafter in the middle. Also, this photo shows the easiest way to set up and tear down the tent and frame. You put the frame together but without the legs for the wall on one side. The frame will be much lower so you can pull the canvas tent over the top from the low side.
    (Hint: After you set up the frame the first time. Get a couple cans of spray paint and paint the connections so that they are colored coated for easier assembly)
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    It looks like you live an enjoyable life.!
     
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    Ibew local #46?
     
  6. Vladimir Steblina

    Vladimir Steblina Retired Forester...now fishing instead of working

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    Nice picture......but as a professional Forester.

    That tree next to the fire ring can significantly shorten your life.

    Looks like there are several others that make your wall tent a target rich environment.

    I am just paranoid....I camp with other Foresters and once during a wind storm I was sleeping soundly.....so they left the tent trailer underneath the cottonwoods and crawled into the boat. They didn't want to wake me!!!


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    You are absolutely right! I have refused to return to this camp until all those "widow makers" are turned into firewood. When the wind started howling I kept thinking "is today the day?"

    Good job of pointing those things out, Vladimir.

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    Wow thanks for the pictures. Nice looking setup.
     
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    No I was non union. Small company but I was well taken care of.
     
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    Right On . Jason Grove Inside wireman local # 46
     
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    Awesome!
     
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    If you are going to the Puyallup show, talk to the guy at Bravo tents. They might a nice tent and he will answer any questions. There is even a seminar on extreme weather tent camping.
     
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    If you want to purchase something at a sportsman show, always do so on the last day. They are always more apt to negotiate on the last day because they don't want to pack that inventory back home.
     
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    Went and checked out the tents at the show for a future buy. At one of them the guy was a complete asshole. I didnt even talk about the cost or anything and he treated me like I didnt have money. The second was seemed way overpriced. Didnt talk to him because he was busy talking with a customer for like 20 min. I have a feeling this guy will lower his price though quite a bit buy Sunday. I was impressed with both tents though.


    What do you guys prefer. Stove jack out the side or top? Side to me seems like it might be better.
     
  15. Trapper Badovinac

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    I've done it both ways and now prefer the top for these reasons.
    -- there will always be some tiny embers coming out the chimney. The greater distance from the top of the chimney to the ground gives them more time to go out.
    -- I stack extra firewood behind my stove to dry it and also to provide a platform for drying boots, socks, gloves, etc. A side jack eliminates that space in the wall tent.

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