I have a Sage BASS rod.....

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  1. Chad Lewis

    Chad Lewis NEVER wonder what to do with your free time

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    and I'd like to catch some of the critters. There are a few good lakes in my local area (north end of Whidbey Island) to target bass. Thing is, I don't know tons of stuff about fishing for 'em. Any tips out there about bass? When does the spring spawn happen around here; I read that pre-spawn is a good time to start? Good places? Anything going on in eastern WA? Entertaining stories? Am I just turning into a redneck? I have to catch these fish, you understand. I can't bear the thought that there are a bunch of big fish in a lake near me and I haven't tried to catch 'em. Not to mention there's the new rod I'm dying to use. Also, tying deer hair flies sure is fun. Yeehaw.....
     
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  3. Randall Dee

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    I can't believe Sage makes a special rod for Bass. Wouldn't just any old rod do?
     
  4. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    They built the bass rods so they'd be tournament length legal. Some tournaments have a 8' or under requirement. Folks are also using them for saltwater applications, like casting in close quarters up under mangroves.

    Fly fishing for bass is a blast.
    To increase your catch rate, I'd recommend getting a hat with a big orange T on it. Make Bill proud!
     
  5. Ethan G.

    Ethan G. I do science.. on fish..

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    :rofl::rofl::rofl: That's great!
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  7. olypenjeeper

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    when i transferred to NJ last summer i started ff'ing bass ponds. It's definately a good time when they attack big surface poppers, but it got old pretty quick. most of them will just run you down in the weeds and sit there. I could probably throw a cig butt out on a hook and have the same success as with flies. I think maybe bass fishing would be alot more fun on moving water. as for the sage rod, can't see spending that much money on it. my tfo 6 wt does just fine for alot cheaper.
     
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    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    Alpine :thumb:

    Check out the Redington Predator if you don't like the price of the Sage. Loomis also has their Shorestalker series, which is in the same dollar range of the Sage.
     
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    Be Jofus G Banned or Parked

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    Look for docks, weeds, or other cover in about 5-15 feet of water. That is where they will spawn in the spring. In early spring if you see no fish there, look for the closest cover or dropoff in 30 -40 ft of water. There will be hella fat hens there gourging themselvs to prepare for spawning. Crawdads and baitfish imitations are gold at this time. If you see them on the spawning grounds, yes a cigarette butt stripped near their spawning bed will do the trick. I prefer Foxy clousers and weighted matuka muddlers though.
     
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    ak_powder_monkey Proud to Be Alaskan

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    On of my goals in life is to win a bass tourney with a fly rod and a canoe just to prove you don't need a $200,000 bass boat and 15 different salmon rods to catch the little buggers just some flies. THe dude who won the classic last year won it by pitching to cover in very shallow water, I bet a competent fly fisherman in the back of his boat coulda out fished him 2 to 1 just cause flies look like food, curly tailed worms don't. Also the way he was fishing you could cover twice as much water with a fly rod than a baitcaster. Sage just like everybody else wants some tourney wins
     
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    dont forget you need a livewell on that canoe, other wise if you show up with dead fish to a tourny weigh in you get penalized! i know what you mean i do alot of bassin for smallies in the spring and early summer all over this state and i am usually in a pontoon boat, row boat, or small boat with 15 hp kicker, and i have better luck than alot of these guys with 40k boats that go 70mph and 7 rods and fish finders and etc etc.... i cant believe the size of lures these guys use too... they are goin after 1-4 lbers with 10 inch long musky plugs???? I know bass like big baits on top water sometimes but these fish arent tuna.

    My only hint if you want to target the bass, especially smallmouth, look for groups of basketball size boulders along the shoreline in 4-15 feet of water:thumb:
     
  12. Chad Lewis

    Chad Lewis NEVER wonder what to do with your free time

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    Thanks for the tips everyone, especially the hat :thumb: I mean, you gotta look the part, right? And thanks for the PM kosel- some good stuff, especially the smallmouth part. I've been wondering where some good water is for these legendary fighters.

    A few notes on the BASS rods. It's not really a bass specific rod, more like a rod that excels at particular fishing strategies. In its own way, it's as task specific as a spey rod. Sage did a lot more than just build a weird length rod. There are three in the series, imaginitively called Largemouth, Smallmouth and Bluegill. I bought the middle one. The rod doesn't feel heavy in the hand, but the "wiggle test" reveals that it's stupid stiff for its weight. I mean, you think that it couldn't possibly cast well. That's why the rod comes with its own WF floating line, developed for the rod. Word is the line's made by Rio. It's basically a 290 grain, extreme weight forward taper (the Largemouth is 330 grain!). That's about a 10 weight line, but despite its stiffness the rod doesn't feel anything like heavy enough to be lined like that. In practice its perfectly matched. Stick a big deer hair bug on the end of it and it'll toss it sixty feet, no problem. A better caster than I threw one to the end of the casting pool at the Bellevue show (with the bass bug). The biggest suprise to me was the way it loads at short range; it'll do a twenty foot cast, and I'm not talking about a lob. Shows how well the rod and line are matched. A review I read speculated the rod might be a parabolic design to get that kind of performance. I wouldn't know a parabolic if it bit me in the ass, so I can't say.

    Add all that together and you have a rod that easily throws the biggest flies, does short to medium distance casts with those flies and has enough backbone to manhandle big fish out of whatever they wanna get into. Like Stonefish said, this makes them perfect for saltwater mangroves and such, targeting baby tarpon, snook, and whatever else hangs out in those kind of places. Of course, they're also perfect for targeting bass. The short rod length helps here too. In the right situation it could be a great tool for salmon and steelhead.

    For minuses, I'd have to say that it takes some effort to cast. Not that you have to work hard to make it load (just the opposite), but it is a really heavy line to throw around and a stiff rod. Maybe not good to try 80' casts all day, unless you're in good "casting shape". I hesitate to call it a fast action rod, because the casting stroke isn't exactly rushed. Instead you get the feeling that there's a lot of mass being moved around. And you're not gonna make presentations that are anything like "delicate" with all that weight on the tip of the line. The rod quality is typical Sage, and the price is pretty good if you factor in the line it comes with. The reel seat looks a little cheap though. I'd like something better there, but it'll get the job done. I think Sage may have built a rod that answers a question no one asked, but judging by the way lots of others have come out with similiar rods, well....
     
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  14. Chad Lewis

    Chad Lewis NEVER wonder what to do with your free time

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    Nice pics (and a fair job of fish stretching too!)! Your handiwork, XstreamAngler?

    Damn, we need warmer weather, like now. Or a trip to Florida.
     
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    Jergens AKA Joe Willauer

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    Considering how much money is at stake, if flies did actually outfish their current gear two to one, they would be using them.