Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by Evan Virnoche, Jun 28, 2013.
Washington lakes....recruitment center of fly fishing special forces
DUN DUN DUN!!!!
I would never associate washingtonlakes with the word knowledge.
There is no way this shit is real. I can't believe any one person could be this stupid and ironic at the same time.
even if this Nate is fake, i checked out some of his posts on the wafakes and he has basically said about all this stuff. now that's Olympic gold of irony.
Folks keep in mind that there are more than a few very good casters/instructors (some who are very well-known fly fishers or guides)of both single-hand and two-hand fly casting that won't take the FFF certification tests or who have taken and passed the FFF certification tests who then don't want to pay the FFF its yearly certification fee (and membership fee as well) to remain a certified casting instructor. Once a person earns a teaching certificate in education, he doesn't have to pay a yearly certification fee to keep his certification, but that is exactly what the FFF requires for its certified casting instructors.
Aside from completely missing the facetious nature of TURDS (I call him TURDS for short, cause we're close like that), you think he meant to tie the sink tip to a plug directly?
TURDS, I think he just implied you're a complete idiot.
I haven't been told yes or no by Pamela Anderson, Liv Tyler or Salma Hayak. But I'm pretty sure I still know the answer.
You sound like the tools who used to schill "guitar playing secrets" books. I hope you have all the success in the world, but right now I smell a whiff of Oxyclean squeezed from a Shamwow.
Someone please tell me they get that last bit. Gawd I hope I don't have to explain it.
Prerequisites to be a "premium" washingtonlakes member:
You've bonked more native steelhead than you have teeth.
You snag wild salmon with treble hooks but you're mad at the Indians.
You use the state fishing regs as mountain money.
You don't buy a fishing license because you can't afford it and its optional anyways.
You have enough buzz bombs to start world war 3.
You follow Nate around like a brain dead idiot while he flosses. (Not his teeth)
Nate your a clown. Douche!
You know, you do need to realize this is a FLYFISHING website! That post was a tongue in cheek joke about plugs on a sinktip.
Sir, I've done some investigating and you're very much into doing promoting about your business and other sites. It's time for you to stop now. Thanks!
Handed my first 2hander when I was 10 or 12 years old; real Green-heart, silk line and all. Mr.Coles (yes a Scotsman) and I'd motor up the mouth of the Bella Colla and set up a tent camp. Only down side is it could really rain! But guy that the nac for building huge beach fires to cook out food, dry clothing, keep warm etc. I swear to this day the man could set a buck of water on fire.
Anyway, Father very ill (he died from a brain hemorrhage) and moved out of Ocean Falls, BC to Vancouver. Was many, many years till I saw my next spey rod.
But off the back stories. I had to 'self learn' the second time around (Sage sold me #4 of the 9150-4 off their production line direct.) But I've taught a lot of people how to cast a 2hander and there are a few 'universals.' With one major exception it was a lousy match up of caster/line and rod. Poor Sod was totally over matched by what fly store clown had sold him. Soon learned to bring at least 4 rods, frequently five, with different line set up, different builders, different actions BUT ONE CONSTANT! NEVER A SINK TIP OF ANY KIND WHILE HE LEARNED the basics and got them down pretty good. Then a light RIO Virsa tip, no more until that was under control.
Next tip: Unless you fish REALLY BIG RIVER's a 14 foot 8wt is all you need, but a rod built by some one(model) whose designs match your style of casting.
But back the the 4 or 5 rods, run them through the one at a time with ongoing 'instructions' (first part of the cast is just a line lift to get as much of that stuff off the water you can as you set up the anchor). A LIFT, NOT A DRAG IT BACK THROUGH THE WATER. If you do that, you're dead meat already. Hard habit to break!
Second bit was just bring the rod around (double spey here) and set a proper anchor roughly 1.5 rod lenghts out and a SMALL tad below you. Etc.
Two things you really have to constantly remind is when (I have to think about this with a Skagit Head -fuzzy memory as I rarely use them) I STICK THAT ROD TIP UP AS HIGH IN THE AIR AS YOU CAN GET IT! "D Loop" has to have somewhere to go; don't crimp it.
Where to aim your cast? You have a few options, but not many. You're forward cast should go right over the fly line to leader connection and a hard stop aiming over the top of the highest tree you can see. Why? Gravity Works. You need to give the line/leader time to roll out . Aim low and you'll have a line crash.
Second cast they learn is the Perry Polk; we all get line crashes and come RIGHT BACK with one of those and you'll rip the line right out of the water and send it screaming out. A 'Never Fail.'
But back to the rods; 'they' will find one that's 'just works.' Now we play with line changes. And we will find some that really do, some that really don't. Put one on that does and lets go fishing.
Last call on a very (like you can get really hurt error due to forward cast) is having the rod too straight up and down (vertical). Line will follow the rod tip, the fly will follow that. If you (until the rod passes your ear) DON'T have that thing canted off 5 - 10 degrees that fly is aimed right at the back of your head!
JUST TRUST ME ON THAT ONE!
What did i just read
God "I suffer small minds light, lightly." I see you live in "Mill Creek" I assume NE of Seattle? In my Seattle banking days I was the one who wrote (golf course included) all the cheques that paid for the original development. My Japanese counter parts were a delight to work with, but they could drink an Elephant under the table.
You appear to have little in the way of personal history, but some do. Had Japanese Exchange Student stay for us several months (Banking classes at the University of Washington) and my two young children taught him how to read/speak English. They were supposed to know ..... Jeese. Shigiro Hirimotto. (Skip the spelling.) Three piece suit rolling on the lawn 'wrasslin' with my kids. Mutual sequels of laughter, the a BBQ.
Went Steelhead fishing almost every week end. Steelhead Trout Club of Washington loved the guy. Taught him how to fly fish, I did the 'gear thing.' (I'm still a member bye the bye.)
Took some doing, but he did catch a couple (three?) fish and 'Neighborhood' Pot Luck Dinner followed. Kid was "King of the Hill." Would go to the monthly meetings and there was always a 'raffle,' some of the stuff was really 'high end.' He'd toss in $20-$30 dollars for tickets and actually won a very good Lamiglass fly rod.
He was jumping up and down so hard I thought he put a hole in the Union Hall floor where we held our meetings. While he was here we had our 'Annual Speggie feed. Home made Red Dego wine, stakes, salads, pot luck. "Shig, you've had 'enough!'
One of his last nights and he looks at me and 'Why you so good to me?'
'Shig, you're Family, we take good care of our Own here in Washington.' Man actually cried.
Turns out he was the son of the Chairman of the Board of Japan's largest bank. End game of that was Rainier BanCorp and Rainier Bank did multi-millions of dollars worth of business together. Moved to Kalifornia in 1984 so no idea if that continued, or to what degree as RBC is now part of Bank of America.
'"Turd," I grew up in far different times, but I suspect you've never just sat around a beach/camp fire, with a cup of coffee, and no one said a word. Major activity was someone tossing in another log, someone from another camp sight pulling up a folding chair and 'any coffee left?'
No, someone would get up and crank off the Colman Stove, some one would take the coffee pot and swish it out in the Toutle/Kalama River. A few minutes later: 'chug-chug-chug.'
Done and a nice pour of Bourbon into the cup. And then someone would suggest 'SomeMores' for desert. I don't care if it was 60 years ago or 6 days, no one say's 'no.'
I'm sorry for what appears to be a rant, but you need to get a life that isn't sitting in some Bar? I'll leave at that save you wish to exchange PM's. If you wish to rise above you're present position you must think ahead.
But your choice of Board names speaks loudly. I'll leave it at that.
"Pass it forward?" Or Not.
Some great advice from one of the gurus in PNW spey casting!
I'm incredibly confused by your posts i wont even lie.
As for all the mill creek stuff and japanese um ok.
My board name is fine and i dont drink. Thanks for your input