in search of a perfect loop

Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by yuhina, Dec 17, 2011.

  1. SPEYBUM

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    I would just loop it until you get the desired effect then needle splice it to the head.
    Make sure of you splice to many heads have gone to the fishes from a slipped slice.
    Keep us posted as you your results.
     
  2. James Waggoner

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    Brady, I've never had a problem with it. I do try to build loops that are small. My biggest concern has always been creating flat spots.
     
  3. James Waggoner

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    I too like to splice but it only works with like material as I like to weld them...I haven't lost a splice yet, but do check them before a day of fishing.
     
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    Geezuz Speyspaz you really turned into a prolapsed asshole.
     
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  6. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    sorry guys, you missed the flame war. couple pages too late. Shoulda been here last week.

    James, I'm interested in your results too, however the line specs out please keep me posted.
     
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    You guys have officially gone full retard. Never go full retard.
     
  8. Brady Burmeister

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    Gotcha. The more I think about it, if you have enough slack to let the bottom of your d loop hinge the cast is probably failed anyway.
     
  9. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    My experience withh sinktips on long lines is limited... what's the biggest/ longest sinktip most of those lines can handle? I've gone no longer than a dozen feet, 120ish grains. Is there an upper limit?
    T-8 is great as a sinking leader, as long as you have the diameter to turn it and a less than giant fly.
     
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    I have an 8/9 Accelerator that I cut back 15ft. (at the built-in "hinge"). It handles a type 8 8wt. 15ft. rio tip, and a 3" leech. I hit about 75-80' at my best, but I'm barely a novice with the long line. The Accelerator is only one I've ever cast. I wouldn't be surprised if someone that knew what they were doing could get another 40ft., even with the tip.
     
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    James,
    Great link thanks.
    I can personally can relate to the following content: "Good= big belly, small stick". I'm good brother, reallllllly good.
     
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    So what about hand placement and stance? I found I have better control with a wider grip, but have yet to really decide what foot I want to lead with.

    James.
     
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    It is a matter of casting skill. A friend of mine will throw 20 foot density compensated tips attached to a double taper spey. He can achieve 85 foot casts with it. Me, with his setup, about 25 feet.
     
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    Here again depends on which school you came out of.
    When I started we only had Double Taper: Later on we added hybrid tips, and shortened them up and made shooting heads out of them.

    Long-belly depends on how well you mind your girlfriend or wife, I other words how slow can you go and not get stuck.

    As for tips you can move any tip with any line as long as the parent line where you attach the tip is has more weight than the tip. I for on go up two line weights for my style of casting.
    Early XLT’s were cut back 27 ft, Early Carron’s were cut back 20 ft or so to cast a 156 grain tip.
    Now I have done away this foolishness and gone to full sinking shooting heads and have more fun.
    The longest full sinking head I use is just under 45 ft with out the tip or poly leader ( note the tip is 126 grains for these heads)
    I hope this helps.
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