Thanks for your contribution to the discussion. Yuhina's explored his thoughts for 8 pages in this thread, thirteeen pages in the last one, and hasn't delivered yet. Your comments might be seen as inflammatory, hmmm. But I've deserved the ball busting, no hard feelings there. I appreciate your very witty comments about Meiser, wine, and tampons, but you dropped a stitch somewhere. Props for creativity. I guess. This is very focused critique on some really dumb concepts that might influence new guys. The fact that I recognize casters who are way beyond me is not a nose/ass scenario, I just give credit where it's due. Ed has disclaimed this crap, even while Yuhina is trying to gain credibility by posting vids of him. I have no hard feelings, don't necessarily feel angry as such, but this my sport and my passion being screwed with here. So the normally placid and funny Spaz gets a head of steam up. I give credit to all pioneers, innovators and awesome fishermen/casters, including senor Ward, not that my applause means a thing. But I shout crap when I see it. C'mon. Yuhina. give it up. I've been spanked, everybody's been spanked at times. just drop this. Go back, rethink again, and definitely spend some time casting for fish, ass against the trees, wind against your loop, in horizontal sleet. School up man. I respect your balls for bringing forward and will respect your balls for letting it go. And please, Mark, don't go into a diatribe about how you can't stand "aggression". Yawn. be a big boy. Like Sean says, it's the internet.