well yah know brian, folks start salt water fishing and think it's the same as their favorite trout stream. you can see those folks at hoodsport. there they are doin' their favorite impression of 'the river runs through it', flipping their line here and there. all the while the fish are blasting past and the gear guys are getting more and more pissed with every false cast they make. salt water takes lots of getting used to and many, many different techniques to be successful even a part of the time. but, the salt has so much to offer it is certainly worth the time to adapt and get after those mean, aggressive, nasty fishes wherever on the planet you choose.