Into the Alpine Lakes Wilderness

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  1. Joe Goodfellow

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    Here's a cut with white tips
     
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    but that's a coastal cutt with white tips. no question there. question centers on the difference between a westy and a golden, right?
     
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    Is this a coastal
     
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    i'd say no, but i'm not sure what it is myself. looks like a cutt-bow with westy genes. but i'm no expert. the spots are very spaced ahead of the tail like a westy, but otherwise it reminds me of some wild bows i catch regularly. still, the red band is not very pronounced, and the white fin tips are there also. not sure what you've got there, but it's lovely.
     
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    on the other hand i caught this very dark bow from a log jam on the same stream and couldn't help noticing it's fins.

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    the more i look, the more cutt-like the mouth seems on this fish. doesn't mean it's not a hybrid, but between the sparse spotting and the mouth it's got to have some westy genes, i would think.
     
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    What about this one?
     
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    This is a golden I think
     
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    I caught fish like this down in kern just like that one
     
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    I like that dark one you got don't you love wild trout doesn't get any better
     
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    that's fabulous. not sure what it is. lots of these look like fish you might find further south. what state did you catch them in?
     
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    Looks like a westslope cutty. Of course knowing where it was from would shed some light on what it truely is. Most definitely not a pure golden. I've seen many, many cases where colorful westslopes and even redbands have been mistaken for goldens. It's fairly rare in the Cascades to find goldens mixed in with other species...and I don't know of any populations in creeks.

    There's a very wide range of spotting and coloration across the geographic range of the subspecies and probably more so in the life history strategy range of the subspecies, I.e., little isolated sub-populations in small creeks will vary greatly from larger river or lake populations...in fact they'll look like totally different species. There's also a ton of genetic 'pollution' from introduced rainbows and other cutthroat subspecies that have bee stocked over native Westy's populations over the last century. This certainly clouds identification.
     
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    i was wondering about the creek question too as i was looking at the photos - not because i know anything, but because i just couldn't conjure up any prior memories of reports or photos of goldens from anything but lakes - except i feel like maybe i have a vague memory of reading something years ago about goldens in the kern system. that's why i wondered if these fish were caught in cali or some other state to the south.
     
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    Got him in a lake outlet high up in the mountains on the east side. It's a golden I think this guy said he takes fingerlings up there.
     
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    from the outlet? background looks like a stream.