Is anyone not fishing a two-hander?

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Panhandle, Nov 5, 2007.

  1. Mr.E

    Mr.E He called me an Elitist ?? LOL ..what a moron

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    Talk about digging up an old thread.

    I've tried spey casting a few times but just don't see the need for such a big pole. If I wanted to cast to the other side of the bank......I'd just resort back to my bait caster. Although with a fighting butt on my poles now, I have taught myself to spey cast off my single hander.
     
  2. knothead

    knothead Banned or Parked

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    Wait, wait, wait! I been waiting for an appropriate time to share this little piece of wisdom from the reader board outside D.A.Burns in Ballard, " The shallower the stream, the louder the babble". SFR. Hey wait a minute.
     
  3. Abel1

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    Picked up the two hander almost twenty years ago. I knew it would be starting all over again. And I was right. I just like to keep fishin man!
     
  4. seanengman

    seanengman Trout have no politics

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    Why are we beating this dead dog?
     
  5. Buck

    Buck "Ride'n Dirty."

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    I thought this one looked familiar.
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    "Is anyone NOT fishing a two-hander?"
    A: NO
    and if you aren't fishing one, I have one for sale!
    :clown:
     
  6. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    I succumbed to the busty spey sirens about this time last year...and my shoulder hurts less.
    But I'm more frustrated. Hate being a novice again.
    15 years fly fishing, only ten of which was real serious, and I always told myself "at least I'm not one of those foofie SPEY guys". Now I am one, dammit. I love the line control, consistent distance with little effort, ability to toss monster tips in winter, and of course the freudian "look at my big SPECIAL thing" on the river.
     
  7. Panhandle

    Panhandle Active Member

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    The statement that fishing a single hander is all you need and that using a two hander is unnecessary is both true and ignorant. True: yes, a single hander is adequate. However, a switch or true two- hander is far superior to using a single hander under warranted conditions. Anyone who claims otherwise is either insecure about the fact that they haven't made the transitions, or completely misunderstands the concept. It has VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH DISTANACE. It has everything to do with efficiency (line in the water) and line control, whether for trout or steelhead. Spey casting is a better, more effective way of fishing. Ya, it sucks to have to start over from scratch and I understand how that alone makes making the move hard. Do it, if the water you fish calls for it, you won't regret it.
     
  8. golfman65

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    Wow, this was almost worth the read...I agree with you panhandle, It has so much more to do with line control and also areas you can fish i.e. in bushes that makes it what it is...As you evolve in your casting capabilities you hopefully end up figuring out that it's not a casting competition.

    I didn't get into this thread to add more to the pissing contest but read where a member uses mainly lighter rods (spey) and am really interested in that...I have been using my 5126 sage when I'm not lake fishing this year and i've been talking to the guys and gals in Or. who are moving the scale downwards even with some of the bigger fish...I had a debate with a buddy who also owns a sage6126 when we were up fishing zipperlip river by whistler this spring for big fat bulls whether our rods could handle some b.c. sized wild steelies...He thought it was pushing the limits too much...I thought the lighter rods could handle um...Low and behold the lucky bastard hooked into a 40" wild while out fishing for bulls...caught it on this tiny minnow pattern...If he wants to add more about that I will let him!!!

    I love my single hand rods, I love my spey rods...I'm starting to find while I can now throw 100' of line with my 14.5 rod on the T. for winter steelies...I don't get up there a whole hell of allot to do it..and i'll be honest, it kicks my ass to fish those big rods all day!!! I know i'll kill myself doing it though as there is nothing else like it..but still, if that was all there was for spey fishing I would question it too...The small rods though, wow, what a joy...yeah if your into catching dinkers cause that's all you got...then fine, stick with a 0 or 1/2wt that's still a blast I guess...but I'm finding another love for spey fishing because of these lighter rods which are so versatile for all types of fly fishing...

    The one great thing about spey fishing is it teaches you to spey cast!!! while I tried it with my single hand before, until I owned and learned how to do it properly on a spey rod, it didn't take..Now it's made a world of difference to my single hand casting...So if nothing else it improves your casting abilities and your chances to throw a tiny dry into a spot you couldn't ever reach with a traditional single hand cast before...

    If anyone else out there is finding a love for the lighter weight speys I really like to hear it..I don't hear about this happening up in B.C. yet but am hearing about it quite a bit south of us!!!
     
  9. Brookie_Hunter

    Brookie_Hunter aka Dave Hoover

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    Never touched one and I don't think I'll ever want one unless my shoulder gets a lot worse than it is now that getting one will be out of necessity alone. Plus, I mostly fish small waters...If you can't cast a 3wt across it with ease, I'm probably not fishing it.
     
  10. Jon Q

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    Two handed rods

    I took a class than read some books on the subject and made a purchase. Two handed rods are not my main thing nor will it ever be. But you know, I took up spey casting for fun and adventure. I am not that good with a two handed rod to ever catch a stealhead. But I sure have fun , get to relax and love the challenge of learning something different. Isn't that what fishing is all about?
     
  11. PT

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    Cast, swing, take a couple steps. Cast, swing, take a couple steps. While you're picking your fly out of the trees behind you please don't mind me while I work my way down and around you. If you need a fly or two just let me know. I'm always willing to help. I only make a bunch of commotion in the top 2/3 of the run. I like to push 'em toward the tailout where the swing is a bit easier. When you check your fly after fishing thru a run and the hook shank has broken off.... you probably did that about half an hour ago and should have checked it earlier.

    Me? I've gotten used to wielding a long pole so it was an easy transition to the spey rod.
     
  12. constructeur

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    Almost feel the same, I recon it's a few years till I feel like spending the money to completely gear up.

    With that said I held a Rainshadow switch rod 2 weeks ago and it felt damn nice!
     
  13. Steven Green

    Steven Green Hood Canal Pirate

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    I don't like to fish big rivers, It's just not my preference. I don't see myself ever owning a spey rod but I learned to do a single hand spey cast. There is no denying that is a very useful cast. Once I get into the rhythm, I can single hand 40 or 50 feet with an unweighted fly and that is plenty for what I fish. I even find myself shooting off a quick single hand spey in the salt if someone is walking behind me or whatever the situation may be. Spey rod for me? No thank you. Spey cast? Hell yes. Learn to fish for the situations your fishing in. This thread has been beat to death twice now. Lets get out and fish.

    Steven
     
  14. knothead

    knothead Banned or Parked

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    [ When you check your fly after fishing thru a run and the hook shank has broken off.... you probably did that about half an hour ago and should have checked it earlier.

    Me? I've gotten used to wielding a long pole so it was an easy transition to the spey rod.[/QUOTE]

    ...and the good news is?... I won't be getting anymore of those $80.00 tickets for not pinching down the barb.
     
  15. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    to Golfman's point, I have a 15' and two 12'6", one of which is a Deer Creek 5/6, and I have to admit under most conditions that's my favorite-at least until my 13' 5/6/7 Meiser custom build arrives (soon, salivating as I write). I reserve the big meat stick for bigger water where longer casts are required to reach the buckets.
    I'm really interested in going lighter, maybe an 11' 4/5, so a normal sized trout gets a chance to show off. But I've landed steelhead on a SH 5wt, and I'm tempted to try an ultralight stick for steelheading too. My 5/6 bends into the corks with a 12# fish on, and that's a rush!
    I had a long conversation with Bob Meiser at the Clave about just this subject; the relative fish-fighting ability of the 5/6/7 13' to the 6/7/8 12'6". I had a delicious month of agonizing over that before I went with Bob's recommendation and ordered the lighter stick.
    also I agree with Pan- it's the total line control that is the ultimate advantage of the rod, that and the decreased fatigue that results if you're not forced to make hero casts. I love moderate distance, easy cast-step-cast on long bars...it's poetic, and the effortlessness compared to the singlehand, plus the fact that your fly is always fishing, makes all the difference to me. And not having to worry about the trees at my back.
    Damn good string:)