Is hunting bad?

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  1. Nate Dutton

    Nate Dutton I'm a teacher, I fish to eat!

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    hunting humans? -BAD
    Hunting wild game? - GOOD
    Hunting for Mushrooms? - Good Or Bad
    Hunting domesticated animals? ehhh not very fun
    Hunting for a Job?- Good
    Hunting for a fight?- probably bad
    That dog 'ill hunt? - Good dog.
     
  2. Big E

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    I hunt only because I like the meat. If I didn't care for the meat, I wouldn't hunt. I don't trophy hunt or shoot animals without some reason...ie shooting a cougar just to have it stuffed.

    You're allowed 20 deer here in SD. I had 4 antlerless tags and had them all filled opening day before 10am.

    Looking forward to hopefully getting an elk and a moose when I move to WA.
     
  3. LT

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    Take some time to articulate your question. Better yet do some research on the subject and form your own opinion. You'll learn a lot more about the subject than throwing out a yes/no question on whether or not hunting is bad.
     
  4. Hem

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    Ropers rules are a pretty good summary...they form a responsible attitude.To some however his rules aren't good enough reason.For myself,I think there are many reasons which allow me to say that hunting is good,most of the reasons are tangible.It keeps my mind sharp,in tune as best i can to the natural world.It allows me to escape some of the so-called advancements in our world, a love /hate relationship with all the things alledgedly making our lives easier....vehicles,phones,computers etc.Mostly,without sounding righteous,I want to be involved with the entire process start to finish.Game meat is healthier, freaked out by hormones and steroids.I mean,heard from a friend of a friend whose daughter had her first period at age eleven( 5th grade),that just ain't right! I like the mental and physical challenge, a combination of skill,intuition, and fortitude.Harvesting a mountain goat at 10,000 ft.,six miles into grizz country, on a 40 degree slope in two feet of snow,and its getting dark, well THAT is an accomplishment.The intangible.Just HAVE to hunt,its the way I am wired.Not everybody is wired the same.
     
  5. Chris Puma

    Chris Puma hates waking up early

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    Fishing is merely a different form of hunting. You think that you're not killing fish with catch and release? Put another crack rock in the pipe!
     
  6. Matt Burke

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    Actually, I agree. I'm not sure what the bitch is, I've been living on the cheap long before shit hit the fan.

    Being able to shoot on the wing has always been easy and fascinating. Well, at least it used to be, but now that I'm old and stupid, I don't know. But it was very cool to turn that around and apply it to a hook. That's steelheading! It's a gift. Being able to hunt and fish. I'll use it any chance I get.
     
  7. Chris Bellows

    Chris Bellows Your Preferred WFF Poster

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    but i think upthecreek prefers this version

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  8. colton rogers

    colton rogers wishin' i was fishin'

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    no way in hell will hunting ever be bad, if you let the deer population go for one year[where i hunt] they would starve themselves out triple whatever the hunters do to them. there was a poll from the game checkers and our area that we hunt had a 45% kill rate. our camp is constantly in the 75-80% kill rate. this is all because we know the land and get out and hunt, not sit in our ford and drive. 30-06 is a bad ass caliber :D damn now i got to go shoot something
     
  9. alpinetrout

    alpinetrout Banned or Parked

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    Not sure if you've looked into it yet, but getting a moose in WA is a one shot in a lifetime deal. If you ever draw a tag, make it count because you'll never get another one.
     
  10. Jerry Daschofsky

    Jerry Daschofsky Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm same way. I only hunt to put some meat in the freezer (like the elk steaks I served at the Hoh Down). I don't go out there to put the biggest mount on the wall (I have none) just like I don't have any fish mounts on the wall (eventhough I have the pics to have them made). Have I been tempted to do the fish? Yeah. But the pics suffice. But myself, I only hunt when I need to put more meat in the freezer. So I say that I'm ok with hunting.
     
  11. colton rogers

    colton rogers wishin' i was fishin'

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    so Jerry if a 12 point bull stepped out in front of you and you shot it with whatever you use, you wouldn't want it stuffed.

    we have some in our living room and some in our office. but my family doesn't get everything stuffed, only the very nicest. all the nice ones we boil the heads and do a self European mount. they turn out alright, for the shop. all im saying is its like a picture, but it looks back at you every morning when your drinking your coffee and its the same excitement as it was when you first shot it all the memories come back. i will shoot the first legal animal, b/c i do it for the meat, but i also like to set standards. like it has to have ___ many points before ___ numbers of days have passed. i don't have any of my heads stuffed. because i don't have any big animals that i want stuffed. but i have the European heads in my room and in our trailer.
     
  12. colton rogers

    colton rogers wishin' i was fishin'

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    there is also a big difference between hunting and killing. hunting is skillful tracking, waiting and outsmarting the animal, killing is walking into the woods and taking whatever you can, even if it is a little fawn. i hope none of you have taken a fawn.

    but i know one guy did because my dad and cousin got there deer early in the season, and the deer hang on the pole for a week, we got them cut up and packaged and i the cooler. it got warmer as the season went on so we took them to town and had a local butcher put them in his freezer for us, when we opened the door, there was a man dropping off a fawn that was about the size of a medium sized dog. he didn't take care of the meat, didn't gut it. hide still on. that i think is wrong. mostly because what are you gonna get out of it after a butcher is done with it 3/4 of you meat so that guy got about 20 pounds of meat back:mad:
     
  13. UptheCreek

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    Trust me, I don't want to come across a some Bible thumping radical from the eastside. Everyone has their opinion on what they believe to be true or not. It is funny to me that the b.s. you were probably fed in school brings you to form the opinions you have about creation or evolution. If you really think that we "evolved" from something and were not created by God then I'm sorry man but you got your facts wrong. If you really do your research, science does coincide with the Bible but just maybe not your science. You either believe all the Bible says or you don't. There is no inbetween or only believing the parts that you want to believe in. I think hunting is great by the way. I can only hope that one day you will realize the truth and find what you are searching for (be that animal or Jesus)
     
  14. Rocket Red

    Rocket Red Vegetarian Cannibal

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    I haven't shot a fawn, but if the guy was not poaching and made the choice to legally kill a sub-adult animal, that is his deal. Maybe he likes veal, or maybe he missed the bigger animal he was shooting at, but rather than leave it, he did the right thing. That meant taking an embarrassing animal to the butcher. That takes a lot more guts than leaving it in the field.

    Your story says he didn't take care of the meat, so chances are he was new to the game. That is probably not a good excuse, but then again he probably learned a lot from that kill.

    Also, to some "hunters", killing the first legal animal they see is hunting. That is how I roll for big game (muzzle loader deer). I like to get the meat in the freezer and get back to chasing salmon. That does not take away the thrill of the hunt, or the excitement of the kill. If I didn't like chasing silvers so much, I would hunt longer just to enjoy hunting itself, because it is really fun.
     
  15. Itchy Dog

    Itchy Dog Some call me Kirk Werner

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    Nymph or swing? Whatever works for one may not work for the other, but as long as you're enjoying the "hunt", it's all good.